• Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    noticing you’re neglecting to defend the blood libel plotline or the fact that it’s another bland, dogshit open world game

    but also if i wanted a cissie’s opinions on trans issues i’d surely have asked instead of telling

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              fr, they have head up ass syndrome. apparently its too hard to listen to trans people on what is and isnt transphobic

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                geordi-no multiple trans people telling you supporting transphobia is bad

                geordi-yes a single zionist with a substack telling you supporting antisemitism is fine and cool

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                Since they clearly have no interest in actually having a discourse maybe you should explain what they’re saying, because it’s absolutely not clear at all.

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                  ok fine, i’ll try and be as clear as possible

                  sometimes things are bad and are bad at their core (both because they financially support someone who is doing so much to make the world more transphobic than it already is and also all the antisemitism, racism, classism, misogyny, transphobia, and just plain old bad writing decisions at the core of the story) and we just need to let go and stop participating in the fandom because it inevitably leads to people saying shit like “oh i can just buy this harry potter game even though i know jkr sucks and this gives money to her that she will use to fund bigotry, it belongs to the the fans now!” when it doesn’t, as long as jkr is alive it’s her space and spending time in it will eventually lead to money making its way over to her!!!

                  and the game itself is bad because it’s about the goblins, who have long been noted to be fairly antisemitic caricatures in harry potter, being swarthy hooked nosed creatures who run the banks, have a long history of pogroms being run on them, have different moral values around ownership (very similar to accusations of judeo bolshevism) and have a literal star of david as their symbol in the films. and in this game they kidnap children for ritual purposes which is just straight up blood libel

                  if you still aren’t sure what’s antisemitic here and you somehow aren’t a bad faith poster, look up judeo bolshevism, look up blood libel, look up images of antisemitic caricatures and compare them to descriptions of goblins in harry potter. there are so many antisemitic tropes in there it’s impossible to imagine no one was aware

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                    The house elfs also want to free their race from slavery perpetrated by humans, and that makes them bad guys because in HP lore they « are happy with servitude » and « it’s natural for them ».

                    In the books, Hermione is made fun of by the narrator and the characters for suggesting that house elfs should be freed.

                    And Harry at some point gets his own house elf slave but the story never paint it as a bad thing because « he is a good master so it’s ok ».

                    There is no universe where this isn’t slavery apologia.

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                    sometimes things are bad and are bad at their core (both because they financially support someone who is doing so much to make the world more transphobic than it already is and also all the antisemitism, racism, classism, misogyny, transphobia, and just plain old bad writing decisions at the core of the story) and we just need to let go and stop participating in the fandom because it inevitably leads to people saying shit like “oh i can just buy this harry potter game even though i know jkr sucks and this gives money to her that she will use to fund bigotry, it belongs to the the fans now!” when it doesn’t, as long as jkr is alive it’s her space and spending time in it will eventually lead to money making its way over to her!!!

                    I’m sorry, but this is such an insane view (with so many inaccuracies in it I’m not going to bother debunking them all) that it’s pointless to argue here. Maybe spend your energy on something else, you’re giving her more mindspace than she is doing actual harm to the community. And she’s probably making very very little off of HL as a whole. Warner Brothers owns the majority of the copyrights around the HL universe, unless it’s theater or books, JK Rowling’s website even says so.

                    and the game itself is bad because it’s about the goblins, who have long been noted to be fairly antisemitic caricatures in harry potter, being swarthy hooked nosed creatures who run the banks, have a long history of pogroms being run on them, have different moral values around ownership (very similar to accusations of judeo bolshevism) and have a literal star of david as their symbol in the films. and in this game they kidnap children for ritual purposes which is just straight up blood libel

                    This has been debunked time and time again. If you don’t believe me, maybe you’ll believe the actual CAMPAIGN AGAINST ANTISEMITISM. She’s so against antisemitism that the fucking Campaign Against Antisemitism says “So it is with JK Rowling, who has proven herself over recent years to be a tireless defender of the Jewish community in its fight against antisemitism, for which we are immensely grateful”.

                    It’s you that are seeing antisemetism. It’s not there. It’s a folk tale that has evolved over actual centuries into tales that go beyond the original tropes. Maybe instead of getting into arguments around this stuff you should look into the history of it and realize that, just because something looks bad, doesn’t mean it is.

                    if you still aren’t sure what’s antisemitic here and you somehow aren’t a bad faith poster, look up judeo bolshevism, look up blood libel, look up images of antisemitic caricatures and compare them to descriptions of goblins in harry potter. there are so many antisemitic tropes in there it’s impossible to imagine no one was aware

                    maybe you should actually research the history of things rather than just looking at pictures and comparing. It’s quite racist (and antisemetic) to think that just because things look similar that they were intended to be the same thing. They’re not.

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                  don’t “they” me, my pronouns are right in my name. using gender neutral pronouns for people who have non-neutral pronouns prominently displayed is soft transphobia

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                  look at what @[email protected] said. https://hexbear.net/comment/4444298

                  i could give you a critical reading of a plot synopsis, but i think that wouldnt do much good here, cromalin’s summary is correct. and for the record you have just talked with 3 trans people that agree that its a problem. in fact i havent met a single trans person (i know many hundreds of trans people) that thought it wasnt a problem.