• Swordgeek@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    “Zero emissions” is such a misleading statement. Electric cars have emissions, they just come from a power plant rather than the tailpipe. And yes, they’re lower and cleaner, etc… I get it, but at the end of the day, unless our entire energy infrastructure is zero-emission from source to consumption, then we should really stop talking about ‘zero emission cars’ and keep the focus just on moving to electric vehicles.

    I’m also curious about how motorcycles will fit into this plan.

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      11 months ago

      Aw jeez not this again.

      The cars are zero added emission. Their upstream may not be.

      And [checks the country this is in] the vast majority of our power comes from hydroelectric, unless you’re in a backward province feeding on the dinosaur juice teat.

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        11 months ago

        Yes, this again. Because it’s wrong to claim otherwise, and too easy to drive a wedge in if it’s not represented properly.

        What’s the actual emission-per-kilometre for an electric sedan vs. a (ICE) Corolla or an Escalade? As much as we get MPG ratings on the sticker of every car now, we should be seeing exactly what the impact is, not just a misleading “zero emissions.”

        And sad but true, five provinces and all three territories are backwards enough to not have massive hydro resources available.

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      11 months ago

      Motorcycles are already very fuel efficient. Ranging from 30 to 80 mpg. Their emissions are typically dirtier than a car or diesel truck. Less carbon but more nitrogen. Unfortunately catalytic converters haven’t been too common on motorcycles. More recent models will have compact ones.

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        11 months ago

        Well that’s sort of why I was wondering. Saying “ICE vehicles must be eliminated by 2035” is different than “cars must be zero-emission by 2035.”

        Realistically, I know the answer - motorcycles never get a break for being smaller, lighter, or more fuel efficient.