More scientific evidence has surfaced to show that while mittens may be your sweet angel, letting her roam outside is also a big threat to biodiversity.

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    Cool story.

    Until the end of last year, mine was indoor-only, and had multiple health problems requiring ongoing expenses and treatment, then a change in my living situation necessitated him being outdoors for part of the time. Ever since then, he has gone into almost complete remission, supplies that would last for weeks now last for months, and his vets agree that the only thing that has changed is he is now getting something from the outdoor experience that medicine couldn’t provide. IE, mental health.

    He was played with and given attention constantly, and it didn’t matter, we thought he had only a few months left. Now he could have years left.

    So he will continue to be outdoors, despite opinions from random people on the internet.

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      despite opinions from random people on the internet.

      I imagine you’re saying:

      due to my own cost-benefit analysis: I’m an animal lover, and I love kitty slightly more than birdie, but in a perfect world kitty would be inside so birdie could live safely outside.

      This allows for responses to more accurately target your calculation. Hopefully it would feel less personal, though who knows.

      But if you dispute #Cat/BirdFacts, then I’m mistaken!

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        No, I meant it as presented.

        My vets and I have all observed that his health has dramatically improved by being outdoors, and therefore the observations, approval and advice of the persons actually involved with my cat are what will be trusted, and the opinions and disapproval of all the angry randos who have had no participation in keeping him alive will have zero weight or importance, because wtf do they really know about it?

        And if my elderly cat, who cannot climb trees because his claws are kept trimmed for being indoors, manages to somehow catch a bird, then good on him and he deserves it, and that bird should have used the power of flight, which my cat does not possess. But it hasn’t happened yet, and probably won’t.

        That’s what I meant. How any adult here decides to handle this reality is up to them.

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          Readers only know what you tell ‘em. Your “my kitty” is “generic feline” to others until more context is provided.

          It does sound like you would keep generic feline inside, given the veterinarian consensus is reducing the number of free-ranging cats is good for cats and birds. And you go by the vet. Sensible, many would agree.

          RE: “survival of the fittest” (e.g. organisms best adjusted to their environment win out, being most successful in surviving and reproducing) - want to be careful not to misapply that thinking to justify human-influenced scenarios.

          The scale and impact of cats hunting in environments where they are not native is more an example of humans disrupting local ecosystems than natural selection. Arguing animals are responsible for their own survival against domesticated predators is ethically contentious. But when everything’s natural I’m with ya on the merit-based view of predation.

          The randos might be less angry if you were immediately up front about extenuating circumstances. Not all of them! But doubtless some will attack an inaccurate idea of you simply having a personal preference, whereafter you’ll feel attacked for “keeping [your cat] alive.” And that’s no good! Waste of time and needless raising of blood pressure :)

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              You’re being good to your cat

              Re-introspect bird vs. domesticated predator

              You’re catching flak in part for the way you comment

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                I feel like this 3rd comment

                https://reddthat.com/comment/5600053

                provided all the pertinent information for anyone to understand that something medically different is going on here, and that maybe mental health for a cat isn’t so easy as just playing with them and giving them attention.

                Meanwhile, prior to that I’m already being told that I’m an irresponsible pet owner who doesn’t deserve a pet, so anyone who has a problem with my tone after that is welcome to fly here and take a number to suck my ass.

                Thank you for appearing to not be one of those people, and providing a more concise thing for me to respond to, it’s appreciated.

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      the only thing that has changed is he is now getting something from the outdoor experience that medicine couldn’t provide

      Well, your living situation changed too…

      When we would take our cat to the vet for various ongoing ailments they’d always ask if anything changed at home. Seems like that might play a factor.

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        Yes, and him being outdoors when he wants is part of that change. There were no issues with the previous residence. If anything there are problems with the new residence. The vets and I went through everything for years and nothing came up that could be addressed. We have this under control, the decision is made. The cat is still going to be outside when he wants, and after all this I will now encourage him to try to catch the fucking birds destroying fruit on the orchard trees.

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          I will now encourage him to try and catch the fucking birds destroying fruit on the orchard trees.

          Your feelings got hurt by strangers on the internet so you want to actively try to be the bad cat owner you claim you’re being painted as?

          👍 you do you I guess.

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            Sure, if I’m considered a bad owner despite all my efforts to take care of him well, may as well lean into it. And these birds actually are destroying the crops, so if he doesn’t eat them, we’ll probably start shooting them. And as mentioned in a different reply, none of them here are native, they’re all invasives. So be happy about it. Or don’t. Whatever.

            And, again, as mentioned elsewhere, the likelihood this old cat will actually catch any bird is severely low.

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              I don’t really care one way or another about your cat. You seem very petulant and kind of antagonistic, especially looking through your comment history.

              I bet you’re a real treat to be around if this is how you interact with people in person. Thankfully the digital world has a block feature.

              Bye bye!

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                You don’t seem to have actually read anything. I have taken such good care of this cat that my vets are amazed he’s lived this long, much less suddenly doing so much better than he was before. Your opinion is trash.

                Feel free to block me, you didn’t have to offer your opinion to begin with. One less asshole replying to me like they know everything.