First of all, I forgive you for not reading and trying to understand my point and abuse me by calling names. (There you go, you have an example when to forgive)
I never mentioned forgiveness is the ultimate choice. Neither did I mention being assertive is. My point, to repeat, is this - the decision to take your action DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION. We should not blindly advocate “always forgive” or “always be assertive”. It ALWAYS and ALWAYS depends on the situation.
What we should do is to have the mindset to take a step back and analyse the situation and choose the correct action.
The example I gave is purely fictional and I don’t know how you are blindly taking a stance against such abusive elderly ? Maybe you have worked with elderly and maybe in those situations they deserve it, but how do you know the situation of everyone in the world ? How can you take that stance without having enough information about them.
Again, please take a step back and try to understand my point.
Well, would you look at that. It’s exactly what I’m talking about.
If you want to manipulate other people into accepting beliefs that directly conflict with their interests and harm them, you could try not blatantly proving them right, to start.
First of all, I forgive you for not reading and trying to understand my point and abuse me by calling names. (There you go, you have an example when to forgive)
Like here.
When I said explicitly that forgiveness is used as an emotional cudgel by worthless, petty slimeballs like you to get your way.
And you’re using it as an emotional cudgel to get your way.
And you’re a particularly petty scumbag at that, while we’re talking about name calling.
You’re the kind of scumbag who’d get defensive and tell some poor girl you forgive them for calling out your shitty brother, or cousin, or friend for raping them, so you can feel like you got one over on them.
Hell, you’d beat your own spouse and tell them you forgive them for the inconvenience when they call you out on it in court.
Because just as I said, forgiveness is nothing more than a flex and a power-trip for vile fuck-ups like you.
You deserve the name-calling you get. Let them hurt you deep within, for all the lies and suffering your ilk imposes on everyone else without a second’s thought.
🙄
Oh, calling it now: you are going to respond: “Well, I hope YOU feel better, find healing and find peace in your life”, because of course the morality behind forgiveness isn’t about what’s good for other people, it’s about asserting superiority over others so you can make yourself feel better. Because of course having a grievance against you is always bad, and negative feelings bad, positive feelings good, and anyone who feels bad is always inferior to you. That is how abusers think. We’ve all seen that lame-ass song and dance before.
It’s okay though. I actually do have a happy peaceful life, because I reject people like you. I don’t keep trash in my life.
morality behind forgiveness isn’t about what’s good for other people
I’m sorry you see it this way. All I did was try to point some random stranger on the internet to what I felt is right. If you don’t accept it that is ok. Hope your belief system works for you and as you said you have a peaceful life, so good for you.
I understand that I can’t get my point through to you, so I’m not going to. I don’t know you enough to make this point so I could be completely wrong, but if I may make one remark, you tend to over assume things. Again I could be wrong, but that’s what I felt from the brief conversation.
Also on the same lines, you don’t know me, and whatever crappy person you made up in your mind is, I’m not that. So I don’t care about those remarks you made. Those are just in your mind.
Yes I accept it is a universal truth that positive feelings and peacefulness is good. And where I can help I will. Not because I think of myself as privileged or superior, because I have received help and forgiveness from others and I consider I owe it to others too.
I’m not going to respond any more because I see no point. One last thing I would say is one day you and I will die (my friend, if I may). And it wouldn’t matter what was right or what was wrong, because in death, nothing matters. So all these thoughts that we have are just for the few years in between. Hope we sail those years without harming oneself and others.
You literally could have just said “Wish you a good life” without the wall of text that says literally nothing.
The rest of us certainly will have good lives, by the way, as we reject abusive scumfucks like yourself.
Oh, but I’m sorry you feel the need to be a hypocritical, toxic, destructive, fake prat who thinks it’s okay for you to get defensive, angry and to lash out when you’re called out on doing something really horrendously egregious, but anyone else who tells you what you’re doing is wrong is beneath you. No disrespect.
Am I doing the bougie sarcasm thing right? Do I need to get plastered on cheap wine before trying it or did you drink it all already?
First of all, I forgive you for not reading and trying to understand my point and abuse me by calling names. (There you go, you have an example when to forgive)
I never mentioned forgiveness is the ultimate choice. Neither did I mention being assertive is. My point, to repeat, is this - the decision to take your action DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION. We should not blindly advocate “always forgive” or “always be assertive”. It ALWAYS and ALWAYS depends on the situation.
What we should do is to have the mindset to take a step back and analyse the situation and choose the correct action.
The example I gave is purely fictional and I don’t know how you are blindly taking a stance against such abusive elderly ? Maybe you have worked with elderly and maybe in those situations they deserve it, but how do you know the situation of everyone in the world ? How can you take that stance without having enough information about them.
Again, please take a step back and try to understand my point.
Well, would you look at that. It’s exactly what I’m talking about.
If you want to manipulate other people into accepting beliefs that directly conflict with their interests and harm them, you could try not blatantly proving them right, to start.
Like here.
When I said explicitly that forgiveness is used as an emotional cudgel by worthless, petty slimeballs like you to get your way.
And you’re using it as an emotional cudgel to get your way.
And you’re a particularly petty scumbag at that, while we’re talking about name calling.
You’re the kind of scumbag who’d get defensive and tell some poor girl you forgive them for calling out your shitty brother, or cousin, or friend for raping them, so you can feel like you got one over on them.
Hell, you’d beat your own spouse and tell them you forgive them for the inconvenience when they call you out on it in court.
Because just as I said, forgiveness is nothing more than a flex and a power-trip for vile fuck-ups like you.
You deserve the name-calling you get. Let them hurt you deep within, for all the lies and suffering your ilk imposes on everyone else without a second’s thought.
🙄
Oh, calling it now: you are going to respond: “Well, I hope YOU feel better, find healing and find peace in your life”, because of course the morality behind forgiveness isn’t about what’s good for other people, it’s about asserting superiority over others so you can make yourself feel better. Because of course having a grievance against you is always bad, and negative feelings bad, positive feelings good, and anyone who feels bad is always inferior to you. That is how abusers think. We’ve all seen that lame-ass song and dance before.
It’s okay though. I actually do have a happy peaceful life, because I reject people like you. I don’t keep trash in my life.
I’m sorry you see it this way. All I did was try to point some random stranger on the internet to what I felt is right. If you don’t accept it that is ok. Hope your belief system works for you and as you said you have a peaceful life, so good for you.
I understand that I can’t get my point through to you, so I’m not going to. I don’t know you enough to make this point so I could be completely wrong, but if I may make one remark, you tend to over assume things. Again I could be wrong, but that’s what I felt from the brief conversation.
Also on the same lines, you don’t know me, and whatever crappy person you made up in your mind is, I’m not that. So I don’t care about those remarks you made. Those are just in your mind.
Yes I accept it is a universal truth that positive feelings and peacefulness is good. And where I can help I will. Not because I think of myself as privileged or superior, because I have received help and forgiveness from others and I consider I owe it to others too.
I’m not going to respond any more because I see no point. One last thing I would say is one day you and I will die (my friend, if I may). And it wouldn’t matter what was right or what was wrong, because in death, nothing matters. So all these thoughts that we have are just for the few years in between. Hope we sail those years without harming oneself and others.
Wish you good life 👍
You literally could have just said “Wish you a good life” without the wall of text that says literally nothing.
The rest of us certainly will have good lives, by the way, as we reject abusive scumfucks like yourself.
Oh, but I’m sorry you feel the need to be a hypocritical, toxic, destructive, fake prat who thinks it’s okay for you to get defensive, angry and to lash out when you’re called out on doing something really horrendously egregious, but anyone else who tells you what you’re doing is wrong is beneath you. No disrespect.
Am I doing the bougie sarcasm thing right? Do I need to get plastered on cheap wine before trying it or did you drink it all already?