At this point everyone should know they just lie to see what they cam get away with and then see what actually needs to be delivered in the next years only to still have a boring game
That’s the problem I have with their flavor of procedural generation: While there was some thematic difference between some planets, exploring them always felt like being on the same place.
Oddly enough I never felt this way with Minecraft and I can’t say why…
I expect the great leap forward in LLMs and AI art to dramatically change this at some point. They can already write pretty interesting plot with OK prompting, surely only a matter of time before someone is able to wrap that in a game.
I agree with you 100%. The difference could be in the “uncanny valley” of proc gen… Minecraft is blocky, so you suspend judgement and just find the attention to detail a wonder, while perhaps realistic-looking proc gen games are not quite realistic enough.
Funnily enough I was talking to my teenagers on this exact subject last night. At a basic level, nms appears to have what Minecraft does, plus spaceships. Why doesn’t it work the same?
For us, we decided that nothing in Minecraft is difficult to get at the level you need it. Wood is easy, always there. When you learn that you need coal for torches, it’s just in that rocky outcrop. Start digging, here’s some iron for you.
In Minecraft you don’t need to understand anything complex, until you’re ready to understand something complex. And if you want to spend a week running around on the surface and collecting chickens, you can do that too.
I restarted a nms game the other day and remembered that constant “warning, warning” as the planet inevitably tries to kill me. It was disheartening.
Just as a heads up: No Man’s Sky has the creative mode where the whole survival stuff and the mindless basic material collecting is pretty much turned off. My daughter and I went on relaxing treasure hunts just the other day, jumping between solar systems and walking around on dangerous surfaces without grinding stuff first. It is a do-what-you-want game at this point.
At this point everyone should know they just lie to see what they cam get away with and then see what actually needs to be delivered in the next years only to still have a boring game
The trailer looked like they slapped fantasy skins on no mans sky.
Its obviously not a lie. Its a slightly smaller version of what NMS is right now with what sounds like more smaller details and proper multiplayer.
That sounds completely deliverable based on what their current game can do right now.
That’s the problem I have with their flavor of procedural generation: While there was some thematic difference between some planets, exploring them always felt like being on the same place.
Oddly enough I never felt this way with Minecraft and I can’t say why…
I expect the great leap forward in LLMs and AI art to dramatically change this at some point. They can already write pretty interesting plot with OK prompting, surely only a matter of time before someone is able to wrap that in a game.
I agree with you 100%. The difference could be in the “uncanny valley” of proc gen… Minecraft is blocky, so you suspend judgement and just find the attention to detail a wonder, while perhaps realistic-looking proc gen games are not quite realistic enough.
Funnily enough I was talking to my teenagers on this exact subject last night. At a basic level, nms appears to have what Minecraft does, plus spaceships. Why doesn’t it work the same?
For us, we decided that nothing in Minecraft is difficult to get at the level you need it. Wood is easy, always there. When you learn that you need coal for torches, it’s just in that rocky outcrop. Start digging, here’s some iron for you.
In Minecraft you don’t need to understand anything complex, until you’re ready to understand something complex. And if you want to spend a week running around on the surface and collecting chickens, you can do that too.
I restarted a nms game the other day and remembered that constant “warning, warning” as the planet inevitably tries to kill me. It was disheartening.
Just as a heads up: No Man’s Sky has the creative mode where the whole survival stuff and the mindless basic material collecting is pretty much turned off. My daughter and I went on relaxing treasure hunts just the other day, jumping between solar systems and walking around on dangerous surfaces without grinding stuff first. It is a do-what-you-want game at this point.