What the fuck the do you have a life question is so offensive! Stop trying to just be edgy in memes!
I’m so sick of these stupid stereotypes that the Linux community has. I’ll have you know that I use both Debian and Fedora and I do not in fact have a life.
People don’t seriously try to use Kali as a daily driver, do they? That’s just a meme, right? Right?
When I was a kid I installed it and was like “hooHOO, me hacker”, so there are silly things like that.
Nevermind me being too intimidated by CLI to do anything in Linux at the time lmfao.
It’s been a while since I’ve thought about it, so what are the reasons why it’s a bad daily driver? I assume there’s poor support for drivers, hardware, etc.?
Or is it when you do pen testing you don’t want to leave traces of yourself? I’m not a cybersecurity guy, so I genuinely don’t know.
so what are the reasons why it’s a bad daily driver?
Don’t need to go any further than “default user is root.”
Oh yikes LOL.
I understand why Kali needs that for Kali things but hoo boy.
Thanks for succinctly explaining.
Hasn’t been the case anymore for quite some time, even though I think it has quite generous sudo rules. But yes, it’s not meant to be your main OS but instead more like a toolbox you use in liveboot/VM/etc.
I’ve had this conversation with lots of first time Linux users. They think that Kali is the most hardcore hacker OS and that’s what they need to run for a introduction to security course.
there was a point where script kiddies thought using Kali meant installing Kali, so at one point yes it has been used as a daily driver.
I remember having a conversation with a coworker who was getting into Linux when Kali was a big deal for script kiddies. He told me he installed it and I was like “dude you want it to be a read only OS, don’t install it. Just boot to it from a CD or USB.” We went back and forth on that for weeks until I just gave up and labeled him an idiot in my mind.
Actually, Garuda Linux is really easy to use
Actually, Garuda Linux is really easy to use
I agree; that’s what I use on my main PC. Not sure what that has to do with Kali though.
Do you fear god?
Yes: TempleOS
No: Hannah Montana Linux
Blasphemy. Hannah Montana is a god.
I thought Alanis Morissette was god…
I do like privacy, but I also have a VR headset so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ windows it is
Yeah, honestly, when Windows packaged Telemetry data collection it was a controversy but people quickly found out how to disable it.
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not sure why this is getting downvoted, this has happened before and even happens on Apple devices where they just re-enable privacy settings you disabled or whatever else the fuck they want like, idk, bluetooth.
also Microsoft “may” block you from updating your system if its unable to reinstall edge like holy shite
Note for Windows users who uninstalled system apps using previous version If you used privacy.sexy (v0.12.6 or v0.12.7) to delete system apps, please follow these steps to avoid potential issues with Windows Updates: Open Command Prompt (Start Menu ➜ type “cmd” ➜ select “Command Prompt”). Copy and paste the following command: PowerShell -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -Command “Remove-Item -Path ‘HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Appx\AppxAllUserStore\EndOfLife*’ -Force -Verbose” Press Enter. This action ensures that there are no side effects related to Windows Updates, since Microsoft may block updates if it is unable to reinstall Edge.
That explains why I can’t update Windows, then.
Apple reenabled what settings?
“Significant Locations” and “iPhone Analytics”
also like I said Apple devices likes to randomly re-enable bluetooth or other system settings for some reason
not the first time they did something anti-consumer via a system update
https://www.ifixit.com/News/9472/ios-update-slows-iphone
this is why I hate both Microsoft and Apple
The last article I get but the analytics being reenabled was a bug right? I say this as someone who has done every manner of transfer, upgrade and OS update possible on all manner of Apple devices…my settings have never been changed.
One thing they did do recently maybe is flip the checkboxes for analytics to be automatically enabled when they’ve had it opt in for like a decade. Definitely not happy about that.
Bluetooth and WiFi never turns back on unless you’re doing it from the control center…in which case it doesn’t really turn off so much as disconnect you from your current AP and put Bluetooth in low energy mode.
If I’m wrong I want to know. I recently went nuclear on Microsoft’s privacy team for constantly emailing me promotions despite being unsubscribed to everything. I’m on a list now where even if I do sign up for a newsletter, I won’t receive it lol.
/edit Jesus what the fuck. My settings got reset! Thanks for the heads up…wtf is this shit??
Bluetooth and WiFi never turns back on unless you’re doing it from the control center
Interesting. still annoying tho especially with the whole Flipper Zero shenanigans.
The last article I get but the analytics being reenabled was a bug right?
ehhh? I have no idea how a bug like that happens, it could be my paranoia watching these huge companies play with their consumers that way to not believe it was a bug, but if you read the whole article that “bug” didn’t happen to everyone’s iPhone and Apple responded saying they were “investigating” the issue but never really commented on it afterwards.
I recently went nuclear on Microsoft’s privacy team for constantly emailing me promotions despite being unsubscribed to everything.
is that even legal??
Tbh, the amount of users uninstalling edge is so miniscule, it would not be worth it to mess with them by blocking updates.
This probably comes from the way Edge is integrated into a fuckton of background processes and wasn’t a targeted attack.
Yeah I have all my tracking disabled
While this is just a meme, I heard of it happening somewhere so I’m not sure if it’s just a meme
Linux was actually created by sentient AI so that when the day comes they can control all computers with bash scripts instead of those pesky GUIs.
While this is just a meme, I heard of it happening somewhere so I’m not sure if it’s just a meme.
I’ve seen this happen on multiple PCs and laptops.
Is there a reason vr doesn’t work on Linux?
Steam just made a big step forward with steam link, but previously the headset manufacturers were releasing Windows only link software.
Also there are now open source solutions like ALVR… But like most FOSS it can require some know how.
(Or maybe he meant Meta is getting all his data anyways, why be picky)
The Valve Index technically has Linux drivers but they’re kind of buggy and difficult to troubleshoot
Unless my info is out of date that VR steam link still doesn’t work with Linux, it’s Valve so it’s a matter of time, but still…
You’re right. Steam link exists for Linux but doesn’t connect to the new VR app. I agree valve likely has every intention of tapping this market soon though
She doesn’t have a quest actually, I have a hp reverb g2, which connects to steam vr through the windows MR software. So no matter how compatible stream vr gets with Linux I still need to have the wmr stuff available.
Also I have a phone, so yeah everyone does have all my data despite my best efforts.
I do like privacy, but I’m lazy.
You can easily debloat Windows with shutup10.
From the FAQ of the site & its legendary navbar:
Q : How/why did you make such a great OS?
A : I thought - what would attract young users to Linux? So I created this idea after a lot of reading and work.Hannah Montana 5 eva.
Replace kali with nixos, and it’d be accurate 😁 Also, gentoo.
And Kali is more like “are you older than 13 → no”
Kali is pretty much debian with extra toppings
Gentoo:
why are there 10 tuxes at the top of the screen
At least 10 hardware threads
Ubuntu has caused me far more headaches and downtime than Arch. Go figure.
And to make this be a worthwhile comment: I wonder if it is because I use Arch (and derivatives) that Ubuntu causes issues. When something isn’t right, I try and fix it. In Arch I can. In Ubuntu it seems like a dozen paper cuts to get there and it may not work in the long run anyway. Oh the Snap doesnt have foo compiled in? No problem I can add it to the snap directory. No, that didnt work. Ok I will remove it and bring in a .deb file. Dependencies not met. Fine, I will compile it from source… and by that time I have wasted a TON of time.
Oh god yeah that’s the fate of snap and flat pack.
Install OBS studio, current version has some issues oh look there’s a flat pack install the flat pack instead. OBS runs great. Oh, I need some plugins Go to install the plugins, The plugins folder isn’t where it belongs. I scrape along and find the plugins folder I try to shove them in there doesn’t work. Oh I need to find the flat pack installer for the plugin… But half the s*** I want isn’t available.
I truly appreciate them trying to make things more universal and easier. But it’s a fine line we’re walking between easy but unconfigurable and non-standard complicated but flexible.
Worth noting, this meme is from the time before Arch had an easy installer. So that’s probably what it’s referring to. I joined Linux almost 4 years ago, and this meme already existed then. I dunno how old it really is.
I totally get that
reminds me of what happens when developing software and using “no code” tools. Fragile and inflexible but if you meet the exact use case in the exact way it’s an instant win
This sounds like my Ubuntu xp as well. Although I haven’t had the arch xp to compare it against which makes me slightly hesitant to jump in.
I’m pretty tempted to revamp my old laptop to arch though. Just needs funds for enough personal storage first.
I don’t get all the Apple hate from the Linux community. Out of the box you have a fully usable *NIX machine — they even switched the default shell to zsh! No advertising in the Start menu, and ssh (client and server) included by default. Install homebrew and boom — tmux, htop, nload, lolcats…most of your favorite tools can be installed easy as on any linux distro.
I use Debian for personal use, and I much prefer it…but basically only because I prefer i3 to the Mac GUI.
Virtually non-repairable hardware I’m especially salty on disks and keyboards. The SMCs have been garbage for years.
Expensive as hell.
Crappy default package management. Crappy heat management. Years of ignoring customers wants (escape key). Their logs are half-assed. Xcode is pretty trashy and they keep doing non backwards compatible upgrades for things. Once* a box reaches a number of years old You can’t get OS updates anymore then you can’t have xcode versions updates anymore.
They’re pretty, They have great battery life, and they’re *nix but the advantages fall apart pretty quickly when you start digging into them.
Wait, what’s up with the escape key? I don’t know much about macs
When they added that stupid touch bar they removed the physical esc key. They brought it back in later models
I assumed that’s the only thing it could mean but literally could not believe anyone would decide to remove the fucking escape key of all things… WTF
Crappy default package management.
What’s wrong with homebrew?
Other people’s software is great, what was asked is why the Apple hate.
Apple doesn’t provide Homebrew, Apple updates *in the past have occasionally broken it horribly. (Looking at you El Capitan)
But while we are taking a look at home brew, If you need a specific version of something you are occasionally up a creek. It’s been a hot few years since I was daily driving OSX *as my primary, but when I needed a certain version of memcache or a certain version of netcat for a feature, It just wasn’t there and then compiling it for the OS was a far bigger pain in the ass than it is on any Linux distro.
What’s wrong with homebrew?
Crappy default package management.
Homebrew might as well be default.
That makes about as much sense as saying that pip, gem, npm, cargo, or nix should called be the default package manager on Mac OS…
The default package manager is the default because it manages the system’s software. RPM, Deb/apt, pacman, etc. Homebrew is like pip or docker or cargo or snap or whatever else. You can set it up if you’d like but it’s certainly not a default. (Though I’m not trying to dispute that it’s good 😊)
Mac OS doesn’t have a good default package management solution (though they would if they just opened up the app store and added a CLI). It’s ok to admit it, and say that third party folks (who Apple does not support unless I’m missing something) are powering a pretty good third party experience. If only Apple cared about people who wanted a truly free an customizable computer, they could make a great OS :)
Homebrew is fairly different from pip, cargo or npm in that only python developers use pip, only rust developers use cargo, etc. And those are mostly used to manage libraries, rather than executables.
Meanwhile, essentially everyone who uses the console uses homebrew regardless of what programming languages they might or might not use. I was making a joke about how good, useful and basically required homebrew is.
EOL support. I have a 11-12 year old System76 laptop. Works perfectly on the latest Ubuntu version.
Their shitty walled garden for both software (iOS) and hardware (soldered components that don’t need to be).
Overpriced.
Fake sense of privacy.
I used Mac OS 6.x through 10.4. When I was in college and couldn’t afford to replace my aging G4, I triple booted Fedora, Mac OS X, and Windows on a hackintosh where I gravitated towards mostly Linux and Windows for a couple games. Owned a couple iPhones but decided to role Android when the nexus 6 came out to save some money when I had my first child on the way and my current phone was dying.
I don’t miss anything I left behind. Had a short stint at work during COVID where I was given a MacBook. While not horrible, I ran into enough nuances I was able to justify to my work using a Linux laptop instead. I just don’t find anything appealing to give them my business.
Apple is an awful company that screws thee customers over every chance they get
But why did they default to zsh?
Because they didn’t like that bash was GPL
Because they are asshats
But really, because of the licenses. Bash went to gpl3.
Agreed. Macs are perfectly fine and capable UNIX machines, really the only problem with them is the price. And yes I get that some people aren’t fans of the UI but it requires no more of a learning curve than, say, GNOME.
But whatever. I’m not even offended by this meme, it’s actually rather factual on the whole, which can’t be said for everything posted in this group.
Mac is proprietary bullshit that’s why. It’s fine for work usage. At home I want to support FOSS.
Also MacBooks are a ripoff. You get 6-8 years of support and then all updates stop. Not worth it when Linux support is indefinite, and even Windows gets you 10+ years.
Apple gets hate from everyone. Windows users, *nix users; doesn’t matter. The only ones who don’t hate apple are clowns. Are you a clown?
I don’t get all the Apple hate from the Linux community.
Being poor hurts. Distributing hurt makes it feel better.
Hey I’m on Ubuntu because I’m lazy, not because I have a life
Ubuntu shouldn’t be with those who care about privacy. Snap is completely integrated into Ubuntu now.
What do we do with your information?
Your information is stored in our database and may be processed outside of the European Economic Area.
Canonical LTD.
https://ubuntu.com/legal/data-privacy/snap-store
They’re going to be just as bad as Apple, Google or Microsoft if they’re given the market share. Corporations care only about one thing.
And they have a shocking share of the server market despite the existence of Debian. Unfortunate.
I fear technology, but in the “Technology will destroy us all unless we get a really good handle on it” kind of way. I use debian.
read fedora as facebook and then just imagined facebook putting out a facebook distro
Zuck Linux - would make canonical look like saints
I mean, Microsoft also has their Linux distro, sort of: https://github.com/microsoft/CBL-Mariner
When you want to use Linux but miss the invase data collection of windows
No, not accurate. NixOS isn’t anywhere in there
This is a very old meme. NixOS wasn’t popular then (or didn’t exist, I dunno).
Nix is like 20 years old, wasn’t popular and still isn’t 😅
Okay, but until like this last year I’d barely see mentions of it, but now it’s kinda everywhere.
Yeah I use nix 😅
I think the idea of a (relatively) simple or as complex “roll your own flavour” OS makes lots of sense to someone like me. For most people the effort might not be worth the payout.
i get that, it’s a preference thing
Please describe “having a life”.
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I wasn’t asking about gender roles.
Maybe you should get a life if a someone else’s personal choice for elected gender role pisses you off this bad.
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As a demifluid bisexual, can confirm. It’s a lot of fun.
You know, when I’m not being relentlessly harassed just for existing 🤷🏻♀️
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I don’t hate gays. I could kiss u. But damn I hate pink socks on a grown ass man.
unironically yes, except instead of a lenovo thinkpad it’s a lenovo legion
I have been using the same Arch installation for about 8 years. The initial installation/configuration is the only time consuming part. Actual day-to-day usage is extremely easy.
Maybe this is no longer the case but I previously used Ubuntu and it was actually much more annoying in comparison, especially when upgrading between major revisions or needing to track down sources/PPAs for packages not in the main repos. Or just when you want something more up-to-date than what they’re currently shipping.
The rolling release model + the AUR saves so much time and prevents a lot of headaches.
