• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    none of those mean that the vast majority of humans can thrive or even be healthy on a vegan diet. and while the food itself may be cheap, it may lack convenience or cultural appropriateness, and therefore come with costs that are hidden at the checkout counter.

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      9 months ago

      sure, there are a lot of factors that would make it difficult. If most people can’t afford to be vegan (for monetary or other cost reasons especially) that reflects a failure of our food system. Our food system hasn’t even gotten to the point of ensuring nobody goes hungry, we should be using our cropland to feed humans not other animals (look up how much of our crops go to livestock)

      we should end the biggest problems first, and start with ending factory farms, but we should also remember that culture is not a good reason to hurt others

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        9 months ago

        Our food system hasn’t even gotten to the point of ensuring nobody goes hungry, we should be using our cropland to feed humans not other animals

        do you have a plan to accomplish that? until such a plan is implemented, there is not even a question whether it’s moral to eat meat, seafood, dairy, or eggs: most people have no volition in the matter and no one can actually change that.

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          9 months ago

          All of Lemmy be up in arms here. Just vote with your wallet when you can. Buy the eggs at the farmers market, or the veggies if you won’t eat eggs. If you don’t have the funds, buy what you need to survive. I want my animals treated well before butchering, and I’ll mix the vegetarian meal into my diet regularly because it’s health for me to not eat meat every meal. I’m still going to eat animals, and most people have already decided what they are ethically ok with. Vegetarianism isn’t the biggest ethical concern for me at this time.

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        9 months ago

        we should end the biggest problems first, and start with ending factory farms

        it’s not clear either that this is “the biggest problem” or, if it is, that the best method of solving our ecological woes is to attack it first.

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        9 months ago

        we should also remember that culture is not a good reason to hurt others

        I suspect we disagree about the relevant definition of “others”