• BigBen103@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    1 year ago

    Maybe you don’t need the language for work. But you will need te learn the language eventually for other day to day interactions.

      • Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        19
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Don’t know about other countries, but in Norway you always have the option of getting websites and government information in English. Everyone speaks it including cashier’s, cleaners etc.

        The same thing is not true in Germany and Spain.

        • Redredme@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Dutchie here, we do the same. Everybody speaks (some form of) English, almost everything is also available in English.

          • Jazard23@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            This is true but also keep in mind that Dutch is still leading in most cases. E.g. if you have a contract that’s both in English and Dutch, if issues arise the Dutch translation will usually be the one that is followed

            • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Dutch is still leading in most cases.

              Sint Maarten should check-in and tell us about the English-Dutch separation and the class system it all but foments. It’s 90% fascinating if 10% disappointing.

        • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          My experience is purely based on Germany and I hate it even as a native. Plus having ADHD and paper being a chore doesnt help at all

          Also most folks (in my experience of south west Germany) of age >40-50 have little experience with English and can’t converse beyond the most basics.

        • ezures@lemmy.wtf
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          For some reason France really doesn’t like giving english (or any other than french) options on their gov sites. Every other country in the eu are fine.

          • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            In France, I feel French is heavily a part of their identity; and contrary to Americans fairweather-jeering their best revolutionary ally, the French do not surrender lightly. It feels like that’s the one thing even the poorest French person has, and taking away one iota of that will be met with a resistance we’ve learned to respect.

        • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          but in Norway [:] English. Everyone speaks it

          Scandinavia is absolutely killing it for bilingualism, among so many other ways they’re killin’ it – no, really, other countries should just study them for clues in general. My experiences (just Sweden, Denmark and bonus Iceland, so far) is that they say Hej and listen for your “hello”, flipping over into beautiful and perfect English without hesitation. Their language programmes are just fucking astounding, really.

          Spain’s fine in the touristy spots, but Spanish itself is VERY accessible as a language, so it’s kinda moot like France.

          In Germany I will have to rely heavily on the kindness of strangers as I will never grok the language.

          • Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            They’re exposed to English every day from multiple sources. You aren’t allowed into university unless you can read and write English to a high level. Your text books are in English at university and classes open to exchange students are taught in English. All English media is subtitled. And school lessons in English start when they’re 6. No mystery, just practice.

        • IuseArchbtw@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          I would most certainly disagree that every person speaks English. Especially older people don’t, but in general many people here do not speak a good english

          • Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            No, pretty much anyone in Norway can speak English, some don’t feel confident in their ability though. But if you ask any rando on the street if they speak English you get the answer of course ".