Republican lawmakers are proposing blocking kids from accessing social media in schools that receive federal broadband subsidies.

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    Y’all know about 5G, right?

    We already block social media at a lot of schools. Doesn’t do shit when all you need to do is disconnect from the schools wifi to see what you want…

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      In before they address this and propose tracking each student’s phone to see if they are in a school zone (and of course to see much more).

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        School would have to provide the phones, not even close to within our budget

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          Not unless we had a large cohort of people doing everything in their power to undermine our freedom and privacy.

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            No, that’s how public education works.

            You can’t require people have things, you have to provide them. Thats how that works.

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        That would be impossible to do without impacting the ability of neighboring homes to access the internet as well. It’s not like the signals magically stop at the school parking lot.

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        I’m sure glad that isn’t true in mine. My daughter called me today to tell me she was really sick and the nurse wasn’t going to send her home. I knew my wife has been really sick and so I knew she needed to go to the doctor. I wouldn’t have even heard about it until after she got home from school if she didn’t have a phone.

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        Easy enough to setup a wifi hotspot in the bathroom and keep it in your pocket.

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        This varies greatly from district to district. I know of plenty of schools that do the same. But I also know school districts (and luckily live in one) where this would never fly. They tried doing this during my daughter’s sophomore year of high school, and the parents all said “Oh, fucking no. If I want to be able to get in touch with my kid, I’ll make that decision, not you.”

        I also know of districts that tried this and just abandoned the idea because it was nigh-on impossible to enforce without suspending like 90% of the kids.

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          I also know of districts that tried this and just abandoned the idea because it was nigh-on impossible to enforce without suspending like 90% of the kids.

          That is what is happening. They suspended the Senior class president who was caught with a phone because they were waiting on a college scholarship call.

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            I graduated about ten years ago so cellphones were popular, but not the same culture we have now. I got suspended because my mom called my phone which I had forgotten to turn off while it was in my locker before school started. Turns out I had forgotten a project so not only did I get suspended, I failed an assignment. Schools are great

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        How did they get the ok for that? Kids with cell phones can help in active shooter situations so to remove a tool that potentially could save a lot of lives seems crazy

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    TBH, I’m not generally opposed to this idea. Social media consumption has a lot of negative consequences, and we could all do with a little less in our lives. However, given the source, I don’t trust Republicans to be making these demands in good faith.

    What’s going to be funny, though, is the number of tech-saavy kids who know how VPNs work. 🍿

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      The question is whether they will be blocked on school WiFi, or via software on the students’ take home laptops that some schools do. If it’s blocked on the WiFi, the tech savvy kids won’t even need a VPN to get around it. If they have a phone, they can tether it and use their phone’s internet plan instead of the school WiFi. Most android phones have this as a feature.

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        They all have phones. Which is how most people use social media. There is no need for any of this shit because they will just use their phones with their data plans.

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      I know my kids have legitimately used social media at school:

      – for group projects, where the online classroom stuff is useless

      — for current events in various social studies, history, and law and government classes

      As a perfect example, my kid is taking a “virtual high school” class for something his school doesn’t normally offer. They had to use social media to coordinate a group project they just completed . Before someone says the school should provide something, in this case they couldn’t because each member school has their own distinct online classroom stuff that can’t coordinate

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    This seems like a rare Republican W. Social Media’s influence on people, especially young people is utterly toxic.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    ), Ted Budd (R-N.C.) and Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.), the bill would require that schools prohibit youths from using social media on their networks to be eligible to for the E-Rate program, which provides lower prices for internet access.

    While the program is broadly supported by Democrats on Capitol Hill and at the Federal Communications Commission and some prominent Republicans, top GOP congressional leaders including Cruz and conservative activists have lashed out against it as a form of wasteful government spending.

    Under the existing program, schools and libraries are ineligible to receive its benefits unless they certify that they have an “Internet safety policy,” including protections against child pornography or other obscene or harmful material.

    “Addictive and distracting social media apps are inviting every evil force on the planet into kids’ classrooms, homes, and minds by giving those who want to abuse or harm children direct access to communicate with them online,” Cruz said in a statement.

    The campaign has gained steam amid building bipartisan concern over the potential negative mental health impact social media platforms can have on younger users.

    The shift is poised to unlock the agency’s Democratic agenda, including efforts to broaden internet affordability programs and to restore broadband regulations such as the Obama-era net neutrality protections.


    The original article contains 698 words, the summary contains 210 words. Saved 70%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      What a great solution: take a legitimate problem and make a big deal about banning an otherwise useful technology, where that will be ineffective and wouldn’t solve the problem anyway

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    What a tragedy. Internet censorship is already terrible in schools and they want to make it worse. what are they to do on there? You’ll probably have kids using their phones and personal hotspots to get around it like i did; or like i started to do later on in high school, just bring my own laptop. they might as well not even make time in the curriculum for that. What are they even allowed to do? Especially that they cant do with their own devices? I can speak from persoanl experience as a (newly) professional software engineer; that being introduced to computers at school definitely set back my technical background more than anything else ive ever done. made me even more confused about how computers work. And i was actually interested and paying attention. But what say you guys? I did go to public school after all; maybe its a lot different at private and charter schools.

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      If you think internet “censorship” is bad in schools, wait until you work in an office, or pretty much anywhere. No one wants anyone to spend time on social media while you’re on the clock.

      You’re going to have a hard time if you’re expecting to be able to whatever you want in the working world.

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        I have to say, I’ve also not runninto that at work.

        – you have a phone: use it. Keep your work life completely separate from your personal life. Always

        – get your work done. They care that you do your job. Management can also be more flexible when you have a reputation for getting things done, and when you’re continuing to get things done