to which an excited Trump — “leaning” toward Pratt as if to be discreet — then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.
Holy fucking fuck.
This guy needs to be in jail. He’s deliberately leaked sources and methods, national nuclear information, and intelligence on foreign forces. Never in the history of the country has there been such a person in charge of national security. He is such a total waste that he thinks the president of the fucking United States needs to show off in front of foreign government officials by leaking national security secrets.
What an absolute piece of shallow-ego shit.
And he did it for clout, to impress somebody. He couldn’t even be a normal traitor and do it for money or idealogical reasons.
it’s somehow even more stupid imo… like… he blabbed about the fact that he had this information and the other guy would have been like “yeah… we know you know… you’re the fucking president”
Riiiiight? This is the weird fucking guy who just walks up to someone they fancy at a party, sight unseen, and just blurts out something fucking stupid like “Hey, good lookin’. I drive a BMW.” and expects applause or sex appeal. Who the fuck raises these people?!?!
That reminds me of this Christmas party we had at work, two friends of mine, one of them being a girl I worked with started hooking up, and so when they arrived to the party, the guy called me over, and he was like, hey, don’t tell nobody but I’ve been beating that pussy up for the past 2 hours, I’m like ok man, whatever, I won’t tell anybody. Then he turns around and starts calling out to someone else and tells them the exact same thing. I’m like dude, who the fuck cares?
Well that’s just…graphic and sad. Why would anybody do that?
Some people are just fucking losers.
Who the fuck raises these people?!?!
Fred Trump and the Fred Trump shaped hole in Don’s soul.
In addition, nuclear secrets are a whole category of secret that the President does not have the authority to reveal
And if he does that for clout, what would he tell if say, someone knew some insider shit he’s been up to?
Someone that has access to top-notch intel gathering.
Someone…. Russian.
Hands down, there’s no doubt Putin knows everything about our military. Everything.
Probably more than Putin knows about his own armed forces.
And how many enlisted men will continue to support him and vote for him? How many vets will give up their families instead of giving up their cult-like reverence for him?
Just an astounding level of ignorance in this country.
Actually, at this point it’s more than ignorance, it’s straight up malice. We have to understand that the proles on the right live in an echo chamber and will never see this story, and that’s by design. Between the Fox News deliberately and knowingly misleading the country about it, and more important, the entire Republican Party (with your occasional Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Mitt Romney, etc.) it hard for the rank and file to have any real clue what’s going on. Toss in years of ensuring that their base is not educated through their deliberate dismantling of public education and religious indoctrination. It’s extremely important to note that you don’t get to Trump without the entire party of complicit cowards who are either ignoring the damage he’s doing, or are actively encouraging it because they’re traitorous fucks, and that it hasn’t happened overnight. This has been a very long game, and it’s not an accident.
There have been folks lock away forever or banned to Russia for doing less than Trump.
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When Trump took office, he was unable to answer a question of what the US nuclear triad consists of. Basically, its land, sea, and air capabilities for strategic attack with nuclear weapons. He literally did not know that.
Based on everything we’ve heard about how the man operates, he probably received a standard presidential briefing on readiness. However, it is also my understanding that Jared Kushner, despite being denied a security clearance multiple times for failing background checks and his ties to foreign government officials, asked for and received briefings on classified information he had no reason for knowing. The problem is that “need to know” goes out the window when it’s the president’s son in law.
I suspect everyone involved with the administration knew about Trump and his family, but were also limited to what they could legally do. Maybe they made sure he didn’t know anything you couldn’t get from Jane’s or Aviation Week, but he also could have gotten highly classified briefings on, eg, our ability to crack in Syria or Iran using sea-based systems.
Here’s where I’m coming from:
- Trump actively leaked classified information to foreign actors and non-cleared persons. This is not contested.
- On the occasions we know about, he seemed to do so to make himself seem important. I cannot imagine the psychology of a person who is the president of the United States and still feels like his ego needs a boost by telling some ambassador about US military or intelligence secrets.
- We don’t yet know if he also did so on the basis of payment, but I strongly suspect that Kushner was also actively soliciting information and the Trump family, including Kushner, received billions of dollars and other considerations from foreign governments.
- Trump and his inner circle were the source of a huge number of the leaks coming out of the White House as palace intrigue drove them to make plays for public perception. They also tended to deal with foreign governments the same way (eg, “I will do X but I’m going to want a favor…”)
I’m pretty far from being a hawk at this point in my lifetime, but even I think that Trump should be jailed and have his communications monitored for the rest of his life, and the same needs to be on the table for other members of his closest circles, including family members. The Constitution tried to take things like selfishness into account in creating the balances of power that they used, but they had no idea that someone could be elected President and have the full support of party members in both chambers of Congress as well as the politicized judiciary even if they were actively engaged in selling national security intelligence to hostile countries. Between their conception of the role of noblesse oblige on the part of people rich enough to get elected, and the idea that people would defend their role as congressional representatives over their personal/party based goals, they were wrong.
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“If that’s all that was discussed, we already know all that,” he told the Times. “We have had Australians serving with Americans on U.S. submarines for years, and we share the same technology and the same weapons as the U.S. Navy.”
This is such bs. If a dem had revealed classified information like this rep’s would be frothing at the mouth.
If a democrat had done 1/10th of the things trump and his admin did, they would still be freaking out about it. Biden hasn’t even really done anything illegal or questionable and republicans have been trying to impeach him anyway.
They’re frothing at the mouth to imprison Hunter Biden for a gun crime that’s pretty much never prosecuted that they’re actively trying to get taken off the books.
We may never know the full extent of the damage to our national security and that of our allies Trump caused. All because of Trump’s inability to just shut the fuck up.
Outside of the NRO, nobody even knew that that level of optical fidelity was even possible with modern technology. That shit is amongst the most classified stuff in the country. Right up there with, you know, exactly how close one of our SSNs can get to various types of Russian subs without getting detected.
Paywalled articles make me sad :(
People who complain about paywalled articles should learn how to internet.
Or people could just post the right link
Clicked the link. It said check if you’re a robot. I checked and I’m not a robot. What do I do next?
Teach us oh internet guru, teach us.
Why when I can wait for you to do this for me? Don’t be mad I used you like a tool maybe just don’t be one. If you weren’t so eager to show off your “intellectual prowess” (lmao) you wouldn’t get used so, tell me again, who is the stupid one here?
Thanks for the link, I got to be productive while you did my work for me.
In reality my comment was more to shame someone for posting a paywalled article that not everyone can access. Take yourself righteous bullshit elsewhere. Information should be free especially when being shared in a public forum.
Byebye now, kisses
The image was cleared for release and redacted before release, hence the black square in the top left.
You’re not getting what I’m saying.
Even in redacted form, the imaging capabilities are quite far beyond what commercial satellites can do. Trump insisted that he was going to publicly release the image (and thus implicitly reveal the optical fidelity and orbital dynamics of what’s probably considered a top-5 intelligence gathering device in the world - and we also likely have the other four, too) simply because he is a man-child with no self control who wanted to troll on Iran for a bit. There was zero strategic gain to be had from revealing that. The effectiveness of the satellite is now substantially reduced, because now state actors know precisely how big a thing can be before it can detect them, as well as the exact angles that you’d need to deploy visual obfuscation to hide a thing.
People who hang around him have said - multiple people, many accounts - he’ll just say the same thing over and over, for the entire conversation, for hours.
He ain’t right. Not that it matters a whit to his cult.
Maybe he has dementia. We’re just so used to him talking shit that he’s getting away with it.
I wonder if that’s why he’s avoiding the debates?
Yeah, I don’t think there’s any way he could handle 7-8 other people on the stage at once anymore. That’s way too much going on for his dementia addled mind to keep up. But he’s also just a cowardly little shit so he’ll refuse to debate Biden next year too.
From how he’s spoken through his campaigns until now, I wouldn’t be surprised. He has a tremendous difficulty remembering the topic of a conversation and veers off wildly, often cutting off his own train of thought.
100%
Yet he continues to walk free ~ boggles the mind
If there really was a deep state even half as hostile to donnie as his cultist apes think there is, they would have found a way to dispose of him a while ago.
2 presidents have been gunned down, but to trump, “no one has ever been treated as unfairly as I have”.
This thought has never crossed my mind but now that I’ve read it, I can’t imagine it isn’t the truth
Well no shit. If there’s one thing consistent with this orange baffoon, it’s that he’s constantly spiling whatever beans there are to spill. Whether it’s self-incriminating blabbermouthing in one of his zillion law suits or casually discussing nuclear secrets with whoever wants to hear them, this sorry excuse for a human being doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up.
He’s not capable of shutting the fuck up. His personality disorders won’t allow him to shut the fuck up. He has zero impulse control. It’s no wonder North Korea, Russia and every other hostile foreign government welcome him with open arms.
Where all my presidential assassins at these days?
That reminds me of a tweet I saw about about the 2016 release of John Hinckley Jr. from the psych hospital. It went something like this:
“JH Jr to be released from custody”
“Well I hope he’s ready to go back, because we need him again.”
That joke on lemmy prob not worth a SS visit
Oh I’d never dream of what you’re implying. It was just a simple question
Playing for team trump, riding in lil rascals with their ar’s in each bloated sausage fingered hands.
He needs to start playing nice with China for that to happen lol
Worst. Present. Ever.
Neck and neck with Buchanan
lol at the “former Australian ambassador to the US” angling for that trump admin 2 job, good job lapping it up salon
Murdoch political media machine started in Australia, but found its home in America.
Because of mandatory voting laws, Australia has voted out the right wing Murdoch endorsed party in every Australian state and federal government (except one, and that state government looks set to be thrown out soon too).
This “former Australian ambassador” is pretending his party is still relevant, maybe it is in America.