[A]n INI configuration file in the Windows Canary channel, discovered by German website Deskmodder, includes references to a “Subscription Edition,” “Subscription Type,” and a “subscription status.”

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      10 months ago

      You’ll be surprised/dismayed how resistant people are to learning something new.

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        That’s not the problem… The problem is Linux isn’t “normal”. Their work laptop comes with Windows or osx. Their home computer comes with the same.

        Now go tell the average person to install Linux… To them, you might as well be telling them to open up their computer and snip a jumper to make their computer faster. To them, you’re telling them to take their working computer and do something they don’t really understand and is beyond their ability to undo.

        It’s an aftermarket modification to them. If you want to make Linux approachable, it’s really damn simple. Hand them a computer running Linux, with a pretty desktop manager, and a GUI for everything you expect them to do with it. Better yet, add an app store so they can try out software and run updates without feeling intimidated

        My point is, if manufacturers start selling Linux machines again, a lot of people will get on board

        People aren’t opposed to learning, they’re just scared of breaking it, and they need to at least be able to use a web browser without going up a learning curve

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        I’m technical and I still prefer Windows at home. Linux, as great as it can be for development, is not great for everyone. It doesn’t “just work.” My favourite example of Linux not “just” working is when Linus tried to install Steam on Pop_OS. He accidentally nuked the entire desktop. I could have easily done the same if I wasn’t paying careful attention. One should never, ever be able to destroy their OS by installing Steam. That’s part of the issue. When things go wrong, all of the instructions which present on Google are people providing terminal commands. Unless one is very comfortable with using the terminal, they’re going to be copying and pasting these commands in and hoping for the best. This is what went wrong for Linus. This is far worse than following GUI based troubleshooting techniques which guide the user through defined and safe resolutions.

        This over-reliance on the terminal is pervasive, and I find myself having to use it for everything from basic OS configuration to software installation to software configuration to drivers to hardware installation and troubleshooting. Every year I boot up a new flavour just to see if things have improved, and they haven’t. Ultimately Linux is built by developers, for developers. That’s great, and it does many things really well. I’ve just come to accept that it doesn’t do consumer stuff very well. It lacks the UX polish present in Windows and MacOS, and most consumers like that. It fails especially hard when it comes to gaming. I literally cannot install any of my Fanatec wheel/peddle/shifter peripherals in any distro. Only 18% of games on ProtonDB are Tier 1. Even of those, it doesn’t guarantee a trouble-free experience. Half the top streamed Twitch games just don’t run on Linux at all, or require absurd workarounds and suffer from terrible performance.

        I’ll keep using Linux for my home server, but it’s along way from replacing my PC or laptop OS.

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          This is actually funny because I installed steam on pop os without issues. But that said, sometimes it freeze my whole pc and I have to hard reboot it (idk why)

          edit: I don’t understand the down votes, it was supposed to be (as stated) funny and not insulting

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          There was nothing accidental about Linus. He did it on purpose, the system very clearly told him not to.

          And Proton works much better than you imply. I don’t know about their new “tiered” rating, but 30% games get Platinum rating (top 1000 most popular titles by player count). Besides that 45% have Gold, and nowadays more often than not that means the game simply just works.
          Trying to say “oh, but it doesn’t always work perfect!” is just nonsense.
          How many games work perfectly without any issues on Windows?

          And please don’t say anything about “UI polish” on Windows when it can’t even keep all its UI consistent - it’d be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.

          And Twitch… almost every game in top #10 works perfectly without any troubles, so what’s your point exactly?

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            I had the exact same thing happen to me once, except I didn’t get an ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE warning. It just listed a bunch of packages like it always did, except this time it was listing packages it was about to remove, not packages that could be upgraded like it usually does. That was 8 years ago, so maybe they added the warning some time after that? But by that point I’d already dealt with enough issues that I just lost all motivation to use Linux as a desktop anymore. It’s just always something.

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            There was nothing accidental about Linus. He did it on purpose, the system very clearly told him not to.

            No, the system asked him if he was sure he wanted to install Steam. He was.

            And Proton works much better than you imply. I don’t know about their new “tiered” rating, but 30% games get Platinum rating (top 1000 most popular titles by player count).

            You think telling players that 30% of their games are playable without issue is a benefit. What I read is that 70% of my games are not guaranteed to run.

            And please don’t say anything about “UI polish” on Windows when it can’t even keep all its UI consistent - it’d be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.

            I’m not sure how you can compare different menu styles with allowing the entire OS to self destruct. That’s quite the disingenuous comparison.

            And Twitch… almost every game in top #10 works perfectly without any troubles, so what’s your point exactly?

            Of the top 10 video games playes on Twitch right now, these games either don’t run at all, or Proton reports game-breaking issues:

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              No, the steam install failed, and he went looking for solutions and one of the potential solutions he found literally says “proceeding might break your system, continue?” And he said yes. The thing that broke his system had nothing to do with steam apart from being recommended by someone somewhere to fix the issue he was having.

              Also you can very much play GTA V on Linux.

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                You know when’s the last time I nuked my Windows install from trying out suggestions on how to fix a failing steam install? Never.

                If you think this should be a normal thing to happen, you can just continue to dream of seeing Linux desktop ever reaching mainstream status.

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                  And I never did it on Linux either. Just because Linus is a dumbass who can’t read doesn’t mean you should disregard an entire os.

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              It’s pretty clear you’re doing your best to misrepresent the reality, so arguing any further is useless…

              Check you facts, see what Linus really did, as a self-proclaimed technical person you should be able to understand very clear warnings he ignored after running random commands he didn’t understand.

              What I read is that 70% of my games are not guaranteed to run.

              Maybe read again. 75% of the most popular games on Steam have at least Gold rating, which means they have minor glitches or need trivial workarounds.

              That’s quite the disingenuous comparison.

              You’ve brought up the point about UI polish.
              You’re the one trying to compare UI polish to ignoring simple warnings.
              Breaking your system on purpose does not quality as self-destruct.

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          Linus fucked up his os by entering the command that prompted him “are you absolutely sure this is what you want to do? if you don’t know, then it isnt.” and presed yes. windows does the same when doing a factory restore, if you click “yes i’m sure” then that’s on you. yes, ideally steam worked and he wouldn’t have had to try to fix it, but that kind of thing happens all the time on all software, linux just gives you the option of fixing it yourself instead of going “welp i’m not using that”.

          this fix-it yourself mode of functionning is really what sets it apart from other OSes, for examp,e if you have a windows problem good luck finding anything beyond “have you tried dism /online?”, which by the way is also a console command and is like the very first step in all windows troubleshooting.

          as for gaming, I daily drive debian and i’m not really encountering any setbacks beyond the obvious “this game developpers is incapable of making a linux anti-cheat so it won’t run on there at all” problem, or its cousin “this game developper is incapable of going into their EAC dashboard and click ‘enable linux support’” (yes, it is that easy, i have done it personally).

          Also worth mentionning that Linus is accused by ex-employees of misconduct, and is generally an asshat when it comes to technology despite being a technology reviewer.

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            The thing with your first statement is there’s so many times dealing with software when you are meant to just click ‘yes I’m sure’ that I’ve become desensitised to those warnings.

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            Linus fucked up his os by entering the command that prompted him “are you absolutely sure this is what you want to do? if you don’t know, then it isnt.”

            From his perspective, he was sure he wanted to install Steam. I don’t understand why you find that confusing. It’s only people with experience who understand that that message might indicate a system incompatibility, and it might nuke the OS. IMHO, no consumer OS should ever run the risk of being broken by installing Steam. There is no excuse for that.

            No, this kind of thing doesn’t happen all the time on Windows. There’s no way to nuke Windows by installing Steam.

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          I also do programming and am fairly used to the terminal, and I still have a headache when thinking of going back to linux, because even when I want to do something as simple as watching netflix on firefox I had to go through a maze of troubleshooting via the terminal to get the correct packages installed. I can’t imagine what someone who isn’t tech savvy who tries to switch to linux would do.

          The user experience on linux and its distributions just aren’t there for the everyday user, and until they are, windows will always be the preferable choice because it actually works. You don’t have to end up having a dispute with it on some arbitrary software download because it doesn’t quite like it, and have to wrangle through many software alternatives that aren’t always available or even anywhere near feature ready because they aren’t available on the platform.

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      I have mint dual booted on my laptop with Win 11. I find myself using Win11 more.

      Idk why, linux mint doesn’t feel finished to me:

      • 120hz won’t work with my dock (works fine in ubuntu and w11)
      • Touchpad scrolling is insanely quick and almost unusable
      • My mouse jitters allover, accelleration or something seems wrong.
      • Can’t seem to set different governors depending on battery or power.
      • Fingerprint doesn’t have a driver (works in Ubuntu ok though).
      • Scaling 125% seems janky, everything is blurry as shit

      It does work mostly ok though and is quick, but it doesn’t feel polished. Ubuntu was great but fuck snap packages.

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        If you’re using synaptics as the touchpad manager, there is a config element to control the speed of the scroll

        VertScrollDelta and HorizScrollDelta (integer) configures the speed of scrolling, it is a bit counter-intuitive because higher values produce greater precision and thus slower scrolling. Negative values cause natural scrolling like in macOS.

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      Switching to a Linux can be overwhelming. A few distros have made great strides to make most of the OS work right after installing it. But even if there’s only 1% issues due to hardware, drivers, gaming, etc., troubleshooting those issues would often require using terminal and are not accessible to everyone. There’s no customer support to reach out to, and online forums can be difficult to navigate for someone not familiar with coding.

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        It ‘can’ be overwhelming, yes. I’ve never found, however, so MANY online guides that literally tell you step by step what to enter in the terminal window to succeed. There’s always a learning curve, it’s just about whether or not you want to pay Windows every month to avoid figuring this out. This is why I mentioned Mint specifically, btw. It’s the most user friendly.