PS5 is just 1.2 million units behind PS4, launch aligned, but Sony expects to sell fewer consoles this year…

Also noteworthy that not only are PS5 sales behind PS4, but the PlayStation’s competition has almost entirely disappeared, and that hasn’t resulted in more PlayStations sold.

    • Carnelian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Why not? Like I said the certified refurbished directly from Sony is $399. Plenty of listings up right now for $285-330

      But even if we compare new consoles to used PCs I think the conclusion is the same

        • Carnelian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 days ago

          And “well below” $300 is not $285-$330

          You’re equivocating. In that instance I am responding directly to your claim that it’s far fetched to find a used one around the $300 point.

          You’ll notice when you quoted me you also excluded the word “dips”. It’s dishonest for you frame my position as misrepresentative of the market by presenting my numbers without the couching I presented them with.

          And why do you want to quibble over $50 when it doesn’t affect the discussion at all? Let’s just work with the higher prices, or even the brand new prices for that matter

            • Carnelian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 days ago

              But ultimately none of this is that high stakes

              Been saying that for four comments now lol

              Yes consoles are often the more economical choice

              This right here is the main idea, yeah, even when looking at the used market for PC components. Glad we found our way back, and even ended up in complete agreement at the end

              As for the help you requested sifting through listings, used and refurbished are different things, you should know. Refurbished direct from Sony is $400, looks like gamestop will do it for $370. This sets a hard cap on used prices, so you’ll notice all the used listings (that actually sell) are below that.

              You should also know they have websites for you to track what actually sells, and not just the listings that are left standing for a while because the price is mediocre. Worth checking that out so you know where to watch, and have a good chance of getting a good price when it appears. Best of luck to you

                • Carnelian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  2 days ago

                  I’m not sure why you’re so resistant to it but I’ll just move on.

                  Oh, sorry yeah I can clear that up.

                  The reason I don’t feel like dancing for you is because you’re dishonest, aggressively self righteous, and obviously just want to fight about something meaningless for no reason.

                  Spend the extra forty bucks for something official if you don’t trust used, and don’t start dumb semantic arguments with people if you’re gonna want their help after. Not that I think you really do, mind. Just pointing out how ridiculous that whole pretense is.

                  Anyway, yeah. Probably is best if you moved along