For clarities sake, there is body cam footage where it alleges he points the gun at the officer while fleeing.
Now I haven’t seen the footage that corroborates this and the footage I did see doesn’t back this statement up (nor does it exclude it, it’s from the POV of another officer)
However the dad apparently left viewing the body cam footage with their lawyer and then went and did this.
I’d expect the body cam footage to show anyone who isn’t a cop that he was running and had a gun in his possession and it likely doesn’t matter from the perspective of the cops if it was actually pointed at him or not.
Basically my bet is the body cam footage corroborates whichever side of the story your want it to.
The outcome of guns is shots fired and folks dead, unfortunately.
I’m not going to try and defend the police in general here. And I’m not going to defend the police involved with this or the kid or the dad. We do not know enough and there is waaaay too much misinformation being spread about this. Anyone who claims to know the “right” thing to do here is either naive or lying.
But, with all that being said. I am a CCW card holder and I do regularly carry as is my constitutional and legal (in my state) right to do so. I also did the whole CCW course (even though my state has constitutional carry laws), go shooting once or twice a month, and annually attend another CCW focused course hosted by a shooting range in partnership with the state sheriff.
But from what I’ve heard, the police started chasing the kid who pulled out a gun (a popular theory I’ve heard online was to dump the weapon). But in that scenario, I can see why the officers would have reacted the way they did. I was taught that if you have to pull a gun on someone the only two de-escalation paths available to you is either them laying face down on the ground, or you killing them. Yes, technically there are other ways, but in a very high stress scenario those things take time and if you pull a gun out you should be 1000000% committed to shooting whatever you have pointed it at.
Like you said, the only thing guns are good at is killing. And no matter how pro-2A and gun loving you are, that’s all they will ever be good for.
I don’t know. I guess this was a really long wall of text to say “we don’t know enough” and “don’t pull a gun out while running from the police”.
Fleeing seems like the operative word in that sentence to me.
For clarities sake, there is body cam footage where it alleges he points the gun at the officer while fleeing.
Now I haven’t seen the footage that corroborates this and the footage I did see doesn’t back this statement up (nor does it exclude it, it’s from the POV of another officer)
However the dad apparently left viewing the body cam footage with their lawyer and then went and did this.
I’d expect the body cam footage to show anyone who isn’t a cop that he was running and had a gun in his possession and it likely doesn’t matter from the perspective of the cops if it was actually pointed at him or not.
Basically my bet is the body cam footage corroborates whichever side of the story your want it to.
The outcome of guns is shots fired and folks dead, unfortunately.
I’m not going to try and defend the police in general here. And I’m not going to defend the police involved with this or the kid or the dad. We do not know enough and there is waaaay too much misinformation being spread about this. Anyone who claims to know the “right” thing to do here is either naive or lying.
But, with all that being said. I am a CCW card holder and I do regularly carry as is my constitutional and legal (in my state) right to do so. I also did the whole CCW course (even though my state has constitutional carry laws), go shooting once or twice a month, and annually attend another CCW focused course hosted by a shooting range in partnership with the state sheriff.
But from what I’ve heard, the police started chasing the kid who pulled out a gun (a popular theory I’ve heard online was to dump the weapon). But in that scenario, I can see why the officers would have reacted the way they did. I was taught that if you have to pull a gun on someone the only two de-escalation paths available to you is either them laying face down on the ground, or you killing them. Yes, technically there are other ways, but in a very high stress scenario those things take time and if you pull a gun out you should be 1000000% committed to shooting whatever you have pointed it at.
Like you said, the only thing guns are good at is killing. And no matter how pro-2A and gun loving you are, that’s all they will ever be good for.
I don’t know. I guess this was a really long wall of text to say “we don’t know enough” and “don’t pull a gun out while running from the police”.
Fleeing doesn’t give you a free pass to be armed with a gun and aim said gun at police officers.
“FAFO”