• /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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    21 hours ago

    Although I don’t agree with illegalization of cannabis, I do have to point out that thc content has gotten dangerously high from like a decade ago. Before, it was like 4%, now it’s nearing 19%. So I don’t feel comfortable recommending people to start recreationally smoking marijuana. It leads to serious mental issues and addiction in some cases. What triggers those “some cases” I don’t know but I don’t really want to try and find out.

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        42 minutes ago

        “I call people ‘afraid’ when they point out the current dangerous path of a drug that drives a 45 USD billion industry.”

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        I biased against meth, but also afraid of it as well. Doesn’t mean I’m going to go out of my way to try it and assess whether it’s really as bad as they say. I also won’t try out any poison, random pills I find, or anything I have to inject.

        Fear is a healthy thing sometimes, mate.

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      7 hours ago

      I keep hearing that it’s supposed to be much stronger these days, but my experience is just the opposite.

      I was a heavy weed smoker in my young years, smoking standard generic pressbud, and it got me nicely stoned. I even had a couple of years where I was growing my own, so I’m very experienced with fresh homegrown weed, which was beautiful. Tasted great, with a very satisfying intense high. Then I quit smoking for a few decades.

      I recently started smoking again in my retirement, and was looking forward to trying this stronger weed I was hearing about. I’ve tried legal weed from various states, and none of it gets me nearly as stoned as the cheap pressbud of my youth.

      This is just anecdotal, but that’s been my experience.

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        I also have anecdotal stories of my friend’s life being ruined by weed addiction. We can all have some anecdotal evidence but more scientific evidence is coming out saying that there are higher levels of thc and if younger children smoke weed it will fuck them up. I do agree that using marijuana cautiously and medicinally can help but I can’t possibly recommend smoking for fun.

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        9 hours ago

        The street market and mainstream market both rely on structure and tactics.

        Look at shitty foods. They don’t need to be shitty… It wasn’t prohibition that made food unhealthy. But they made them that way.

        Look at our news, it doesn’t have to be filled with shitty entertainment tactics and drama, but it is and it’s unhealthy to our society.

        Addiction and emotion is marketed regardless of mainstream or street.

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      And this rising potency is a direct consequence of cannabis being illegal. Producers are breeding stronger and stronger strains with higher THC content and lower CBD to get the most bang for their buck. This is true for all illicit drugs, as they tend towards becoming more potent when they need to be smuggled (e.g. why fentanyl is often added to heroin, as it delivers more potency per gram).

      If you legalise and regulate it, suddenly that pressure is taken away. Cannabis is produced in consistent and known strengths, distributed in packaging that clearly states the potency so people can make informed choices about what they take.

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        And this rising potency is a direct consequence of cannabis being illegal. Producers are breeding stronger and stronger strains with higher THC content and lower CBD to get the most bang for their buck.

        this isnt exactly true. (my instinct is to say it’s completely false but i could be wrong!) in many states, it’s medical marijuana that is >20% THC and the cheap public stuff is unregulated below that amount. so you have people getting a bogus medical card, buying up 30% strands, and smoking an ounce a week and going into psychosis. source: stoner drug counselor

        historically, yes! that was definitely a motivator. but the current system perpetuates it deeply

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          just guessing here, but I’d think it’s getting perpetuated, as people expect or are used to the potent stuff.

          Also not sure if the price is adjusted to strength, but I’d also suspect that people would buy stronger stuff and use less of it, so it lasts longer

          (pure speculation on my end)

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            11 hours ago

            I’m sure many do but unfortunately i haven’t met or heard about any of it… whether it’s in the world or on r/trees or wherever. People rolling up giant blunts, etc. it’s crazy the way people overindulge! they say it’s spiritual and then binge on it… it’s like downing an entire bottle of communion wine lol

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              I was taught alcohol consumption where I grew up the same way. Consume as much as possible.

              It’s lame.

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      17 hours ago

      you know you can just smoke/vape 5x less material, right? i’m personally not a fan of the “high THC-A % at all costs” commercial grows and there is a wonderful variety of 3% or less CBD hemp or type 2s with 4%

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        you know you can just smoke/vape 5x less material, right?

        this is very true and something i practice myself, using as little as possible

        and yet… that’s not how most people use the drug. meth is similar! did you know that if you were to microdose meth you could theoretically use it as an ADHD medication? and yet where are all the microdosers? why does my city have a rampant meth problem?

        thankfully cannabis is not nearly as destructive as meth but the parent comment is right: cannabis is becoming more and more problematic in people’s lives due to the high THC content and the cultural rubber banding effect. we’ve gotta reckon with the fact that this miracle drug is still a drug that messes with our NT systems quite a bit

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        14 hours ago

        I’m glad stoners are so eco-conscious that they’re not wasting plastic on packaging.

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          I need like an upvote plus button. Like a “nice!” button. I’m always fighting the urge to post “damn that’s funny” all over the place.

          An upvote should cover it I suppose, but it’s not satisfying.

          Anyway, good one

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      20 hours ago

      I’ve been a huge pothead for decades and I honestly haven’t noticed an increase in content while smoking regular weed. I think that’s the branded stuff that sends you out of orbit.

      But if it has changed, that just means I smoke less to get to the high I like by smoking the equivalent of one joint during the day. It’s so much less smoke for my lungs this way, I’m not complaining. Lol

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        When I was a stoner I just reached a point where it didn’t effect me the same way.

        Like I would smoke more but it would just be the same level high …but I felt like I needed it any time I did anything. Maybe I didn’t increase my bowl size much but the frequency increased.

        Looking back it was such a a waste of my time and money. I was trying to chase this medicinal effect I was reading about but I never found it.

        I still use it, but I don’t use it during the day like before.