these also expose others to risk of death by explosion as gas stoves require gas pipes which blow up every so often, usually taking a few houses with it
You didn’t even include the most obvious one from San Bernardino. That one still haunts me. Luckily it happened in midday with surprisingly few casualties but a gas line blew up like a whole suburban block.
Indoor cooking serves a social purpose that marijuana doesn’t. We can’t just do away with it. As for the other things, they are already legal most places, if they were illegal I would most certainly oppose legalizing them and cigarettes should also be banned for the innocent people they kill through causing impaired driving and exposing innocent people to their smoke.
big time yeah, but so does smoking. for that matter, so does alcohol.
We can’t just do away with it.
sure we could! we can just do it outside.
ngl if all you’ve got is “well these things are legal and this one isn’t” then i’m deeply uninterested. “but it’s illegal!” okay so what? in the u.s. at least those laws were created explicitly to target and demonize black people and progressive movements. i listed the things i did bc they’re all harmful to human health in one way or another. candles put out a similar level of air pollution to smoking cigarettes inside. campfires? oh you better believe that shit is terrible for you. my point is that you’re not really being honest about the reasoning behind your beliefs. it’s okay to say “i think this should be banned because i don’t like it.” maybe nobody will agree with you! maybe they will. at least it would be truthful.
I am not using the law as a justification but rather saying that something already being socially unacceptable for the majority of people and already being illegal is easier to counteract than something that these is no base for its elimination already. It is easier to oppose something already illegal than saying we should eliminate something from scratch even if I agree with you that it ought to be eliminated long term. Smoking and alcohol do not serve the same purpose as cooking and are unnecessary and easily replaceable.
rapidly losing interest here but illegality in no way corresponds to social unacceptability. i’m not sure why you would ever make the mistake of conflating the two tbh.
Marijuana is socially unacceptable by many people outside of those in criminal circles and it’s level of acceptability can be counteracted through media and education
Indoor cooking serves a social purpose that marijuana doesn’t
So because you personally see no utility in something, nobody in society can benefit from it as they see fit. This is your reactionary boomer mind poking through. Taking selfish simplifications and extrapolating to them to everyone to enforce social control. You must recognize this is boomer behavior you are exhibiting. The exact logic is used to justify homophobia and transphobia.
Indoor cooking is a nearly universal concept that there is not an easy replacement for in the majority of cases. Eliminating marijuana is much more achievable.
if it’s so achievable then why hasn’t it been done despite the most authoritarian police state in world history with a surveillance state and billions in funding? Despite putting millions into jail for it to bring our prison population to the highest in human history?
Because keeping people as offenders makes more money. Jails aren’t designed to help stop crimes. We should be using free treatment centers and education primarily.
If someone refuses help then it doesn’t matter, as long as they are kept away from the rest of society. Jail/labor camps would probably make the most sense. If someone doesn’t want help then you can’t help them even if you try
oh hell yes now we’re talking. so you’re in favor of banning cigarettes, campfires, candles, gas stoves, and shit why not, indoor cooking too right?
these also expose others to risk of death by explosion as gas stoves require gas pipes which blow up every so often, usually taking a few houses with it
You didn’t even include the most obvious one from San Bernardino. That one still haunts me. Luckily it happened in midday with surprisingly few casualties but a gas line blew up like a whole suburban block.
Indoor cooking serves a social purpose that marijuana doesn’t. We can’t just do away with it. As for the other things, they are already legal most places, if they were illegal I would most certainly oppose legalizing them and cigarettes should also be banned for the innocent people they kill through causing impaired driving and exposing innocent people to their smoke.
big time yeah, but so does smoking. for that matter, so does alcohol.
sure we could! we can just do it outside.
ngl if all you’ve got is “well these things are legal and this one isn’t” then i’m deeply uninterested. “but it’s illegal!” okay so what? in the u.s. at least those laws were created explicitly to target and demonize black people and progressive movements. i listed the things i did bc they’re all harmful to human health in one way or another. candles put out a similar level of air pollution to smoking cigarettes inside. campfires? oh you better believe that shit is terrible for you. my point is that you’re not really being honest about the reasoning behind your beliefs. it’s okay to say “i think this should be banned because i don’t like it.” maybe nobody will agree with you! maybe they will. at least it would be truthful.
I am not using the law as a justification but rather saying that something already being socially unacceptable for the majority of people and already being illegal is easier to counteract than something that these is no base for its elimination already. It is easier to oppose something already illegal than saying we should eliminate something from scratch even if I agree with you that it ought to be eliminated long term. Smoking and alcohol do not serve the same purpose as cooking and are unnecessary and easily replaceable.
rapidly losing interest here but illegality in no way corresponds to social unacceptability. i’m not sure why you would ever make the mistake of conflating the two tbh.
Marijuana is socially unacceptable by many people outside of those in criminal circles and it’s level of acceptability can be counteracted through media and education
no sorry i think you might just be a loser. D.A.R.E already exists and it never changed anyone’s mind.
Ah yes, I am the loser. Not the person promoting drug addiction
So because you personally see no utility in something, nobody in society can benefit from it as they see fit. This is your reactionary boomer mind poking through. Taking selfish simplifications and extrapolating to them to everyone to enforce social control. You must recognize this is boomer behavior you are exhibiting. The exact logic is used to justify homophobia and transphobia.
Indoor cooking is a nearly universal concept that there is not an easy replacement for in the majority of cases. Eliminating marijuana is much more achievable.
if it’s so achievable then why hasn’t it been done despite the most authoritarian police state in world history with a surveillance state and billions in funding? Despite putting millions into jail for it to bring our prison population to the highest in human history?
Because keeping people as offenders makes more money. Jails aren’t designed to help stop crimes. We should be using free treatment centers and education primarily.
What happens when people refuse treatment and ignore your “education” DARE initiatives?
If someone refuses help then it doesn’t matter, as long as they are kept away from the rest of society. Jail/labor camps would probably make the most sense. If someone doesn’t want help then you can’t help them even if you try