Do you want a bunch of marijuana smokers on public transit with you? Exposing others to the dangerous smoke and causing such a noxious odor? Even if you ban cars they still are too impaired for things like bikes which cannot be easily done away with.
“Mass shooters at Rep. Gabby Giffords’s constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users.” (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9462911/). They are apt to commit violent crimes beyond just what they do on the roads.
i think this is the only time in my life i’ve ever encountered someone who isn’t an arch conservative try to make the claim that weed contributes to sexual assault (per your argument elsewhere in the thread) and mass murder. did your parents leave you in a locked room with nothing but reefer madness for entertainment as a kid or something?
No, I look at the actual evidence that marijuana causes violence in things like domestic abuse (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7525024/) as well as being tied to bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7084484), both of which cause violent actions. I think that we should support users in trying to get off it and focus on education rather than criminalization but it is dangerous none-the-less.
So you also advocate making alchool illegal? (overwhelming evidence of alcohol contributing to violence, domestic of otherwise) Note how I wrote “contribute” and not cause.
Human behavioural problems are complicated as well as their causes. Blaming them solely on substances is dishonest and steers us away from the real causes.
We aren’t discussing alcohol. I obviously oppose it and also support criminalizing it with fierce aggression but that’s completely irrelevant to this discussion, there are many other things I also support criminalizing
correlation doesn’t equal causation. weed is very popular and used hundreds of millions of times every day, of course it will be co-existing with all the realities of the world. It doesn’t mean that it causes them.
It causes slower reaction times. People still attempt to drive/ride a bike even with alcohol so they will likely do so with marijuana. There is substantial evidence tying its usage to violence and mental illness. That is reason enough to oppose it
By your logic you would also be stripping people of a bunch of culturally significant substances used in ceremonies etc. Just take the L here you’re extremely wrong and this is just entirely a bad faith argument at this point.
as someone who suffers pretty frequent migraines i can agree that it’s no fun when people are stinky in public. you don’t hear me calling for a ban on perfumes, colognes, axe body spray (showing my age here probably) etc, etc, etc.
in my experience it was mostly used by assholes to tear gas a whole locker room by puncturing the can and then blockading the door so no one can escape
distracted driving impairs your ability to operate a vehicle significantly, better ban
talking topassengers!or you know. just invest in public transit instead and ban cars.
Do you want a bunch of marijuana smokers on public transit with you? Exposing others to the dangerous smoke and causing such a noxious odor? Even if you ban cars they still are too impaired for things like bikes which cannot be easily done away with.
“Mass shooters at Rep. Gabby Giffords’s constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users.” (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9462911/). They are apt to commit violent crimes beyond just what they do on the roads.
i think this is the only time in my life i’ve ever encountered someone who isn’t an arch conservative try to make the claim that weed contributes to sexual assault (per your argument elsewhere in the thread) and mass murder. did your parents leave you in a locked room with nothing but reefer madness for entertainment as a kid or something?
No, I look at the actual evidence that marijuana causes violence in things like domestic abuse (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7525024/) as well as being tied to bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7084484), both of which cause violent actions. I think that we should support users in trying to get off it and focus on education rather than criminalization but it is dangerous none-the-less.
So you also advocate making alchool illegal? (overwhelming evidence of alcohol contributing to violence, domestic of otherwise) Note how I wrote “contribute” and not cause.
Human behavioural problems are complicated as well as their causes. Blaming them solely on substances is dishonest and steers us away from the real causes.
We aren’t discussing alcohol. I obviously oppose it and also support criminalizing it with fierce aggression but that’s completely irrelevant to this discussion, there are many other things I also support criminalizing
correlation doesn’t equal causation. weed is very popular and used hundreds of millions of times every day, of course it will be co-existing with all the realities of the world. It doesn’t mean that it causes them.
It causes slower reaction times. People still attempt to drive/ride a bike even with alcohol so they will likely do so with marijuana. There is substantial evidence tying its usage to violence and mental illness. That is reason enough to oppose it
No it isn’t and you’re a fascist boomer who is pro child-enslavement. That is the logical endpoint of making weed illegal, we already saw it.
Or…they could just not sell things that kill people. Sorry, I didn’t realize that every AES state is “pro child-enslavement”.
By your logic you would also be stripping people of a bunch of culturally significant substances used in ceremonies etc. Just take the L here you’re extremely wrong and this is just entirely a bad faith argument at this point.
Sib please get on a fucking bus once in your life. You are not allowed to smoke on them, marijuana or no.
When I am on trains or subways there are often other passengers with smoke on their clothes, this is still terrible.
as someone who suffers pretty frequent migraines i can agree that it’s no fun when people are stinky in public. you don’t hear me calling for a ban on perfumes, colognes, axe body spray (showing my age here probably) etc, etc, etc.
I’m calling for a ban on axe, even if you won’t. That shit is for awkward middle school dances, and nothing else
in my experience it was mostly used by assholes to tear gas a whole locker room by puncturing the can and then blockading the door so no one can escape
lmao now I’m imagining Axe body spray cans being used as improvised tear gas devices in a riot.
god i’d rather get hit with a grenade
you could try it against the cops but it’ll just remind them of when they peaked in middle school
Okay, so it’s for two things
If the smell was the only issue I would agree with you but marijuana causes violence and death in a way that those don’t
I hate to break it to you but Reefer Madness is not a documentary.