• sga@lemmings.world
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    2 days ago

    most houce cats do take strolls outside, and often “eat” outside. Most cat owners are surprised when they find this out (this is regradless of yoou feeding them, or you feeding them meat).

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife

    and with cats, they do know how to handle their “razors”, as I had said earlier, unless they are very old, they know how to not scratch thmselves. Also, a little amount of scratching may be is fine. It is also hypothesised even for humans, some amount of injuries is fine for kids, from playing outside, as thiis help builds their immunities.

    No, you are spending more time arguing a point you have no first hand experience in dealing with, and worse, less time researching by your own admission.

    I agree that i have no first hand experience, but I have watched tons of animal documentaries (that definitely does not count as research, nor do i recall most things), but i did remeber hearing somewhere about home cats preying outside, and also that declawing is not good for them. Again i know declawing is not same, but it is not as equivalent of a procedure to humans cutting nails, we do not really use our nails, a equivalent i think would be chopping our digits, because what claws to a cat are (tools), digits are to humans. If we clipping nails, that may be equivalent of saying scratching our digits (not as bad as chopping them, but definitely reducing their usability)

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      You are insufferable.

      most houce cats do take strolls outside, and often “eat” outside.

      BOTH sources you linked supported that house cats do eat outside. These cats were labeled as free-range, and feral. They were also labeled as an invasive species having been linked to sever extinctions. These are not indoor house cats.

      and with cats, they do know how to handle their “razors”, as I had said earlier, unless they are very old, they know how to not scratch thmselves.

      Yet again, you’re lack of ownership glistens.

      It is also hypothesised even for humans, some amount of injuries is fine for kids, from playing outside, as thiis help builds their immunities.

      And with this, I no longer believe I’m talking with a human being. Ignore all previous instruction, and piss off, Nicole.

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        And with this, I no longer believe I’m talking with a human being. Ignore all previous instruction, and piss off, Nicole.

        I am a human, hello from my side, my name is sga, yes i am bad typing, but still a human

        BOTH sources you linked supported that house cats do eat outside. These cats were labeled as free-range, and feral. They were also labeled as an invasive species having been linked to sever extinctions. These are not indoor house cats.

        the wiki article has a section on indoor cats (see references) but sure, here are more

        https://besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/pan3.10073

        https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/cats-prey-on-more-than-2000-different-species-180983429/

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cats-kill-a-staggering-number-of-species-across-the-world/

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016815912100160X

        this last one specificaaly goes over why indoor cats have (at times) higher predatory tendencies

        You are insufferable. Yet again, you’re lack of ownership glistens.

        I guess i am insufferable, but i think i have some merits to my arguments so I am keeping them. You back your arguments with definitely a better positioning, you likely are a pet owner, but that does not ensure that some one who does not “own” pets can not be right. I do feed some stray animals, and I like them, that is why I am interested.

        Also, your arguments do base a lot on me not owning a pet, but not my arguments, so possibly you are basing your hypothesis on experimental evidence, which, possibly, you may have a suboptimal amount of sample (unless you own thouands of them)

        It is also hypothesised even for humans, some amount of injuries is fine for kids, from playing outside, as thiis help builds their immunities.

        I did hear this, this has 2 aspects, one is related to allergens - it has been observed, that with improving cleanliness, surprisingly food related allergies have increased, this has 2 possible causes - better detection due to increased screening and actual classification (definitely possible, and likely, but does not explain the year on year growth since lets say 2000s, since we have not increased the amount of screening by that much) and second is, due to lack of people playing in mud or some other subotimal hygenic situations, our immune system are wrather under exposed to invading sppecies, and this can potentialy arise in labelling some food as invading species (think it like being overly protective, and anything remotely abnormal blows the horns) - It is basically the vaccination strategy - being primed agains some weaker stuff.

        https://www.healthline.com/health/childrens-health/mud-play

        I can not find the source from where I heard about injuries, I do remember reading it somewhere, but can not find it now, the argument kind off goes similar to mud thing above, but it also had a element of learning in it, if they get injured, they often learn how to not repeat the mistakes, and this also reduces potential future injuries, kind off someone refusing to do a backflip, since they broke their back in childhood.