June 2018 was a long time ago now. She came across pretty far to the left. When considering the sliding American center going right, she remains far to the left of the American political spectrum.
Can you identify 5-10 congresspeople futher to the left of AOC?
Anyone doing leftist purity tests is usually where I start with far left. I can fully agree that America does not represent many real leftist views because there are not many real leftist in America. They are not a majority.
They do wonderful things in smaller towns where they are the majority. But yes, I agree with you. There are no real leftist in the US government and that’s pretty much by design because they’re not well represented in the general public.
3rd party avg about 5% in the US, and even then they aren’t necessarily all left.
So what you describe as ‘not a majority’ is more accurately extremely rare.
I think its okay to own your place on the political compass. Some reason the far left and far right always imagine they are the center and thats how we get extremism and unpopular policies! Look around you, 330M americans. Lots of opinions. Where do your opinions land if we lined them all up between left and right. Nothing wrong with being a lefty. All opinions matter, not all should be forced on people.
Well that’s what I was trying to discuss with you, I do think I can rate them accurately. We may not agree on how I rate people because I am writing them in context of the voters around me.
The leftist in my local city are much different than the leftist in our national government. So yes the based local leftist who run food drives and do social workers are ‘real leftists’( leftist purity test or a leftist thing) the guys that talk Marx theory and run for local office. I know all types.
But in the American national government, there are few of those types. Because they do not represent a majority of Americans. They are the far left in this country. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just where the median is today in my interpretation.
We may not agree on how I rate people because I am writing them in context of the voters around me.
Well you are right.
A typical American thing, many of them have a faulty benchmark for rating since they only think about their own country.
This while the rest of the world mostly uses these terms accurately since they don’t have this narrow spectrum and they are well defined and universal.
Especially online that can lead to confusion.
Well usually when we’re talking about ‘democrats’ we’re talking about an American political party. And if we’re talking about American politics, i assume we are talking aout American politics, and assume their values. Not the French, or the Japanese. I like to learn about other peoples politics too, but thats not what we are discussing here.
Even when talking about Americans, the definitions don’t change.
Even if you do it among yourselves, using ‘left’ for what is only objectively ‘relatively left’ people will not even know what actual left is.
That’s getting Orwellian.
Hypothetically, if you’re from a extremely violent country except for the small area where you happen to live and you only see 4 people being shot in your street every day, would you think it’s accurate to call that a peaceful area?
LOL, but I guess it’s what to expect coming from someone calling AOC a “total lefty”
June 2018 was a long time ago now. She came across pretty far to the left. When considering the sliding American center going right, she remains far to the left of the American political spectrum.
Can you identify 5-10 congresspeople futher to the left of AOC?
See, that’s a specific group.
And what you call ‘to the left of them’ is simply and objectively ‘less right’
Anyone doing leftist purity tests is usually where I start with far left. I can fully agree that America does not represent many real leftist views because there are not many real leftist in America. They are not a majority.
They do wonderful things in smaller towns where they are the majority. But yes, I agree with you. There are no real leftist in the US government and that’s pretty much by design because they’re not well represented in the general public.
3rd party avg about 5% in the US, and even then they aren’t necessarily all left.
So what you describe as ‘not a majority’ is more accurately extremely rare.
This guy I know who doesn’t vote republican said Warren, Bernie and AOC are extreme.
That is al relative OC when what you get is a few centre and the majority right to ultra-right.
What is the healthy choice between Fanta or Coke?
I think its okay to own your place on the political compass. Some reason the far left and far right always imagine they are the center and thats how we get extremism and unpopular policies! Look around you, 330M americans. Lots of opinions. Where do your opinions land if we lined them all up between left and right. Nothing wrong with being a lefty. All opinions matter, not all should be forced on people.
I’m not American so my Overton window is what it should be, unlike the unhealthy US landscape.
And even on mine I am pretty far left.
Certainly not, but you should at least know to rate them accurately.
Larping as left like AOC or Bernie doesn’t cut it.
Well that’s what I was trying to discuss with you, I do think I can rate them accurately. We may not agree on how I rate people because I am writing them in context of the voters around me.
The leftist in my local city are much different than the leftist in our national government. So yes the based local leftist who run food drives and do social workers are ‘real leftists’( leftist purity test or a leftist thing) the guys that talk Marx theory and run for local office. I know all types.
But in the American national government, there are few of those types. Because they do not represent a majority of Americans. They are the far left in this country. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just where the median is today in my interpretation.
Well you are right.
A typical American thing, many of them have a faulty benchmark for rating since they only think about their own country.
This while the rest of the world mostly uses these terms accurately since they don’t have this narrow spectrum and they are well defined and universal.
Especially online that can lead to confusion.
Well usually when we’re talking about ‘democrats’ we’re talking about an American political party. And if we’re talking about American politics, i assume we are talking aout American politics, and assume their values. Not the French, or the Japanese. I like to learn about other peoples politics too, but thats not what we are discussing here.
Even when talking about Americans, the definitions don’t change.
Even if you do it among yourselves, using ‘left’ for what is only objectively ‘relatively left’ people will not even know what actual left is.
That’s getting Orwellian.
Hypothetically, if you’re from a extremely violent country except for the small area where you happen to live and you only see 4 people being shot in your street every day, would you think it’s accurate to call that a peaceful area?