• Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    Who’s watching marvel movies for free, legally? Who’s listening to RHCP’s entire discography for free, legally?

    Not the people training AI, they’ve been caught pirating their data multiple times.

    • mechoman444@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 days ago

      No one is. That’s exactly the point.

      Llms aren’t recreating copyrighted works. They’re drawing inspiration if you will. No copyright is being infringed.

      • Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        And how is an LLM trained to “draw inspiration” from an author without reading their books?

        • mechoman444@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          That’s exactly what it is. But it’s not replicating the book to sell that same book to generate profit the author of the book won’t get.

          It’s using the information in the book to generate its own data.

          Are you aware of how llms work?

          • Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            Ok, so if the LLM was trained by reading the books, then the LLM creators should have to buy a copy of the books, right?

            Because right now the creators are pirating the books to feed into the machine.

            • mechoman444@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 days ago

              If the people who make llms are illegally acquiring copywrited material without paying for it then the creators of the llms should be held accountable by the authority figures that govern such crimes and infringments. Absolutely. That was never in question or a relevant point in this discussion.

              You’re the one saying that copywrite shouldn’t exist and you should be able to use all and any material you wish for any reason at any time.

              Insane American copywrite laws not withstanding copywrite generally protects the creators of their work from others profiting off of it.