• Ruigaard@slrpnk.net
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    5 days ago

    Just a quick reply - haven’t read your sources yet. But I also feel like it works both ways, one’s lack of empathy helps you succeed in a capitalist culture that only has one metric for success, money. Will now start reading ;).

    • dustyData@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      I was thinking about this recently and noticed something very interesting, as a thought experiment of sorts.

      For extremely rich and wealthy people, it is not actually about the money.

      I mean, it is about the money in the sense that money is the formal expression of something deeper. But there’s a shift, between having to think about money as a tool for survival, and having so much money that it’s no longer relevant day to day and it becomes a sort of score for a game of life.

      Certainly in mid and high level of management, executives, etc. money is the most important thing, they are hired and their livelihood, as well as their score, depends on them making the line go up and accumulating more and more money for the owner class. But for the owner class, it’s all about the status, how the score is going. It’s essentially a global level dick measuring contest. Of course they are not going to use the money for anything, they don’t care. Their empathy is gone, what they want is to get ahead on the game. It’s all about the narrative, the optics, the projection of influence and power.

      If it weren’t for money, it would be something else. Piety and ranks in theocracies, titles and land in the feudal times, honor and armies in feudal Japan, etc. It’s just so happens that modern globalist culture has settled on corporate financial wealth.

      There’s a sort of mind bug that humans are susceptible to, that pushes people into the pursuit of this affluent status, then eliminates all humanity left from the brain. Just to see who dies with the most points.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      5 days ago

      I agree with the underlying concept, that having low/no empathy is rewarded under the current capitalist systems that most first world countries endorse.

      The conflict I have with that mentality, which drives me, personally, away from it, is that if you go back in the history books, we only survived some eras because of strong communal bonds and collaboration with our tribe. In every circumstance, collaboration has been more beneficial economically, than any other option.

      Therefore, I reject the selfish capitalist ideals and embrace empathy for the sake of humanity and my role in it.

      I’ll note, I am neither rich, nor American.

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        5 days ago

        We are still thriving creating great things because we collaborate on a large level. It might not be that communal anymore (unfortunately), but working together is still the key to success (in a system way).

        It would be beneficial for all, if we could bring back the communal part - while still holding on to some of the benefits the modern global system has produced. I just always wonder, how do you replace or compete with the ice cold global capitalist systems, that can win most of the time in the short term and just overwhelm any sustainable, communal long term system.

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          5 days ago

          That’s the trick, isn’t it?

          Make a thing that helps collaboration that people buy into for long term survival, sacrificing what “could be” to hopefully achieve a better tomorrow…

          Nobody has successfully achieved this yet.