I don’t see the point in doing men’s vs women’s clothing sizes. Surely there’s a big enough variance in size and shape between individuals that it would be more useful to size based off of measurements of body shape?

Take shoes for example. Why is a uk men’s size 10 so wildly different from a UK women’s size 10?

All it seems to achieve is making shopping for clothes difficult for anyone that doesn’t fit into the expected body shape for their gender and make it hard to find well fitting clothes outside of specialist shops.

  • IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    This really depends on the clothes. Shoes should absolutely have a single sizing system and I would love for all pants to use waist/leg measurements like jeans do. But many other garments are completely reasonable to separate based on gender (or sex, rather), primarily tops due to the fact of boobs existing and even pants like I mentioned are able to have tighter crotches on a women’s size.

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      22 hours ago

      Shoes are pretty easy to guesstimate for US sizes if you have average feet (width being the biggest reason this fails). Men size is basically women size plus 1.5. This doesn’t work if you have a large foot size though, since women’s dont go up to the same max as men’s

      Clothes are 100% a pain. Especially online shopping

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        14 hours ago

        I just wish there wasn’t so much guesstimating required. I stopped growing a while back and yet I’ve fit an 11, 11.5, and 11W, depending on the shoe. I wish it was a bit more standardised based on length and width. I’ve never shopped online for shoes because I know they probably won’t fit right!

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      2 days ago

      In many parts of the world, shoe sizes are unified (cm or mm). They still use the labels for men and women for style but, so far as I know, they’re otherwise the same (unless the widths differ, but those are also standardized in many places so you might get like a 25.5e for 25.5cm width e)