I don’t see the point in doing men’s vs women’s clothing sizes. Surely there’s a big enough variance in size and shape between individuals that it would be more useful to size based off of measurements of body shape?
Take shoes for example. Why is a uk men’s size 10 so wildly different from a UK women’s size 10?
All it seems to achieve is making shopping for clothes difficult for anyone that doesn’t fit into the expected body shape for their gender and make it hard to find well fitting clothes outside of specialist shops.
Because men and women have different body shapes. A small man and woman may need the same size but certainly not the same cut.
E: nvm i skipped over you talking about body shapes. Yes I’d agree that there should be more options, but even an overweight man will likely need and want a different cut than a woman of similar proportions. So the distinction between genders still makes sense, just that each needs to accommodate more body types.
Nowadays all women’s clothes are straight up and down, the only difference is pink. It’s a nightmare for women who are shaped like women.
Ehh I’ve had to use women cuts shirt ss undershirts sometimes, even if the size was right they always felt tight across the back and shoulders
That’s just not… true… Maybe the ones you choose to buy 🤣
Have a look at German clothing sites for fun. There is no “choice”.
… I’m from Germany and talking from a German perspective. I can ask some of my female friends where they get their clothes if you want?
Sure. But Popken, C&A, Bella Green, Bonprix, P&C (both iterations), Cecil, Braxx, etc. do not believe in boobs or hips. I found a French company that does, but they’re horrifyingly expensive.
Are women who fit into the clothes you describe not women?
Did I end up on Ravelry?
Yup. I agree. Men’s pants more often accomodate my wide ass better than women’s clothing. I don’t know how. It shouldn’t be possible. Even the swimming trunks fit better… I found out ball hammocks are a thing. Not out of curiosity, but out of desperation! And sometimes, I find pants that fit my ass, but the legs are too short!
Another thing is that women’s clothing is meant to be form shaping. So if you are less curvy, the clothes got you covered. If you are too curvy, the clothes will crawl and migrate down the hills.
It’s hard to find practical clothing. Such as a swimming top that will stay the fuck on if you jump off a cliff. Or a bottim that has space for more than 1 asscheek. Let alone to avoid the camel toe.
Not to mention flimsy fabric with shitty patterns added. Found a comfy nice shoe? Well here is 2cm^2 of snakeskin pattern for no reason. How about a nice shirt? Got some stupid white woman quote on it though. Or an animal with massive eyes to make your boobs look bigger… ffs. Or the bad design? Nice hoodie? Well it’s short enough to show the belly button. Pockets? Some are fake. This nice looking top has 3 straps and you need to fold it inwards to make it stay in shape! Oh found a nice, 100% thick wool jacket? Oh it’s men sized. Arms are too long and a bit to tight around the bottom. Well let’s see- oh the women’s section doesn’t even have the option. Only a thin fleece hoodie in bright pastell colours.
God I swear to you, I hate women’s clothing so fucking much.
“Maybe I should just go swimming at a nude beach… that way I won’t have to search or worry anymore.”
Don’t forget the snakeskin is usually a mixture of pastels.
Yes and no, it depends on the brand mostly, but at least here in México it’s notorious because brands tend to import asian sizes for some reason (or so some clerks say) and you see lots of size 0 or 1, but bigger sizes or clothes that actually fit women who aren’t flat/extremely skinny are sold out first (and fast).
Men’s pants are also poorly fitted if you have a butt, they seem designed to be for flat guys only.