A person can be killed instantly through many different means.

As we know it, to be killed painlessly, is to be killed instantly.

If you instantly destroy a person’s entire brain then they died without pain.

Yet the most effective ways of instantly destroying someone’s entire brain are considered inhumane.

If instantly killing someone by smashing their head with a massive rock, or shooting them in the brain stem is inhumane, then there is no humane way to kill someone at all.

  • Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    There is a difference, but if you start saying that shooting an invader is humane, you have a serious problem.

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      1 year ago

      Self-defense is inhumane? Call out the invader first, please, then we can talk about whether the defender is overdoing it.

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        1 year ago

        Killing is inhumane.

        Killing in self defense might be necessary, yet it does not become humane just because you want it to.

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        1 year ago

        That sounds like your average american too.

        Nonetheless, if you start thinking that killing is humane because “they deserve it”, I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

        Because I’m pretty sure that this horrible rapist invader is also convinced that you deserve it, yet I don’t believe you would find their behaviour humane for that reason.

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          1 year ago

          if you start thinking that killing is humane because “they deserve it”, I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

          Fair enough. While I don’t subscribe to pacifism, I do prefer that self-defense be regarded as an unfortunate necessity. Celebrating violence isn’t going to help us.

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            1 year ago

            It can be a necessity and still be inhumane.

            Having to do something does not make it good, and it’s fine as long as people see it.

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            1 year ago

            Because I said that killing is inhumane?

            Oh I forgot, Russia doesn’t kill anyone, silly me /s