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The worst thing I ever read about the issues about destroying sexual education is that it also leaves children unable to actually describe any abuse, because they don’t know what’s going on, what anything is called, and what is and isn’t a “good” touch.
I’m not saying Florida Republicans are in any way wanting that outcome, but you have to at least wonder why they’re so concerned about this.
That’s by design. Republicans are child molestation pros
And even those who legitimately are not have been convinced by those who are that talking about sex and the body is bad and leads to evil things.
I’m saying this is exactly the outcome Republicans want.
I imagine that Florida is to Americans, what America is to the rest of the world.
And what earth is to the rest of the Galaxy
And what the galaxy Is to the local cluster
Did yall used to think we were generally pretty cool though off? I think that’s the sad thing here, Florida is like the cousin you kinda liked before they got hardcore into meth. Like you aren’t surprised they tried meth, they seemed the type, but they didn’t seem the type to mug grandma at a family reunion before stealing your mom’s Ritalin, but well here we are and now mom won’t be able to focus for the rest of the month, grandma can’t stop crying, and they just shot the cigarette pinata
I don’t think Florida has been cool at any point in my lifetime. They started meth before I was born, and by the time I was old enough to form memories they were most well known for “Florida Man.” You’d have to go back to the 80s to find a time when Florida was cool.
Florida has only ever been a punchline for as long as I’ve been around.
There are many amazing things that came from Florida and are still in Florida right now. But as a package deal, I certainly haven’t heard of a time where they’ve been above par.
Or would that technically be “below par”? Isn’t being under par the objective? I don’t know, I don’t play golf. Florida’s got acres of fucking golf courses, surely someone there could tell me the answer.
Yes
I’ve always said that about Texas, but Florida fits pretty well too.
What remains is a discussion of the benefits of abstinence and a cursory review of various sexually transmitted diseases.
Oh hey, that’s the sex ed we got in my school. Along with at least 4 pregnant girls I knew of under 17 in a very small rural school. The youngest was 13.
If the people “teaching” us ever connected those facts, it wasn’t apparent to me.
They want more teen pregnancies. Teen pregnancies tend to keep the mother poor, and subsequently the child. That keeps them desperate and more likely to be desperate enough to take shitty, low paying jobs, or potentially even doing slave labor in a for profit prison.
It also puts strain on the rest of the family.
Wasn’t AI supposed to make everyone unemployed by now? Something doesn’t add up.
I used to think, ‘oh, people against sex ed just don’t understand the good things it does! Later first pregnancies, protection from abuse, std prevention…if they understood, of course they’d be on board!’ Haha, oh younger me.
I still do think there are lots of people who come around, if some source they trust reaches them, but I was mistaken to think certain other people were actually against child abuse and teenage pregnancy.
30 … shit 40 years ago when I was a kid … sex education came from kids who were one or two years older than you … hustler magazine and porn videos.
I think I was about 20 before I properly understood what sex was and I had to learn it all on my own.
Freshman year of college, my friends group had to explain how stuff works to a member. She’d just gotten her first boyfriend and really needed The Talk.
My mom handled things by just leaving out a copy of “What’s Happening to My Body?”, but then again, I was a very bookish child.
If you don’t teach your kids, life will, and experience isn’t nearly so patient nor kind.
Also if we could please stop obsessing with children and sex in these regressive states.
I vaguely remember the “sex ed” video our Catholic elementary school showed as an optional parent/kid evening event. The most direct it got about sex was a line drawing of a cow and a bull, then a dotted line arrow appeared from the bull’s crotch area to the cow’s, as the narrator said, “The male inserts his penis into the vagina of the female…” then stuff about the sperm fertilizing the egg. We were left completely clueless until we figured out the details by trial and error in high school.
The look on your faces when you found out that you didn’t even need cattle for it!
Rural school
I’d moove
I grew up rural too, but in a less conservative area, and… Honestly, it made for some hilarious moments in sex ed.
I think the crowning moment was in high school health class - at the start of the sex ed unit, they split us up by gender, and had both groups try to draw both reproductive systems as a baseline for what we knew. Both groups did pretry well with the male stuff, but there was a stark (and unexpected) difference in the diagrams of the female reproductive system:
The girls group did an excellent job of drawing and labeling a vagina, but almost none of the internal bits.
The boys group, though… One dude had noticed something about the general shape of female reproductive system in an earlier class, and came up with a his own mnemonic for it: turns out, you can sketch oit the general layout of the ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, and birth canal pretty neatly over the dodge ram logo.
Hayward, Calif - small suburban city next to Oakland
Man my catholic school made us label the vas deferens in 6th grade. Mind you they also told us condoms don’t prevent the spread of hiv.
my catholic school made us label the vas deferens in 6th grade
Hopefully not on yourself with marker lol
Nah on the priest of course
Removing the anatomy portion of sex ed is absurd, but we’ll just file it under the same “everything I don’t like is porn” reasoning they’ve been using. And at least I can understand how someone can think that teaching about birth control only encourages sex.
But what the actual fuck can anyone say to defend removing any discussion about consent‽ I honestly can’t understand it. There’s literally no reason not to cover it unless you object to the idea that rape and molestation are bad.
What’s next, teaching kids that strangers in vans have the best candy? That adults will often reward those who give special favors? The importance of keeping uncomfortable experiences a secret?
They don’t believe women and children (and immigrants, and people with the wrong skin colour, and insufficiently wealthy people, and people who have different opinions than theirs, and people who work for them, and anyone but themselves, really) have the right or even ability to consent (or rather not consent) to anything (or any other right, really; just lots and lots of duties), simple as that, and will see any lack of consent (or anything else they perceive as an undeserved privilege, like claiming human rights) as a form of disrespect and even theft (in their worldview there’s only so much rights, happiness, wellbeing and whatnot to go around, so if anyone else has any they’re clearly stealing them from those who actually deserve them).
Consent is too woke for Florida
Ew. Yes, this is exactly what I meant.
They want Gilead
I once was driving through a radio dead spot in AZ and the only broadcast I could find was some hyper-religious preacher complaining about things. I still remember the line “Today’s youth think that if something is consensual it can’t be bad.”
I remember thinking, yep, that about sums it up.
The idea is probably that there is nothing to consent to if you are supposed to practice abstinence.
I mean, the viewpoint these folks operate from is that there’s no need to discuss consent because you should never consent prior to marriage (aka abstinence before marriage is always saying no, so there’s no need to discuss any other answer) and that marriage is always implied consent at all times (so there remains nothing to discuss because now it’s always yes) - the whole idea of talking about consent is built on the implication that there isn’t a preordained, socially determined answer but instead that it’s a question that needs to be discussed.
All of these things will protect kids from the radical left. Now remember, conservatives project to confess, and read what you wrote again.
But what the actual fuck can anyone say to defend removing any discussion about consent‽
Because women are property. They belong to their father until they are married and then they belong to their husbands. Men and boys have no reason to give consent.
They really want to fuck them kids, don’t they?
Comprehensive sex education prevents more abortions than bans. I know this. You know this. And red states know this. Their bans have nothing to do with protecting life. It’s all about reintroducing women suffrage.
Suffrage means the right to vote. Women suffrage is a Good Thing, and can’t be reintroduced because it already exists in the US.
I think they meant “women’s suffering”
And American conservatives are starting to float opposition to it
This is how we get crap like “soaking”, can’t wait for what ever ludicrous thing is next.
Finally the conservative dream.
Easily fix your demographic issues with this one trick
So what does it include?
I assume they’re trying to out-do the old Soviet joke.
Preface to a new sex education schoolbook:
“Dear children. There are three kinds of love. First, there is the love between parents and children. We’re sure all of you are already familiar with that, so there is no need to discuss it here. Second, there is the love between two adults. Some suggest it might be too early to tell you anything about that yet. And third, there’s the love the People feel toward the Party, and that is what we shall discuss for the rest of this book…”Religious indoctrination and shaming.
Shouldn’t separation of church and state also separate the state from ideologies espoused by the church
Absolutely. Republicans aren’t in the business of being logically consistent or even the least bit honest, though.
Most people aren’t
Humans are animals
That’s why they’re blatantly doing away with separation of church and state.
Essentially “Don’t do it if you don’t want to catch a disease, get pregnant, or get someone else pregnant. Only way to be absolutely sure.”
Which is true, to be fair. I mean a majority of students aren’t going to implement that and it’s missing 99% of what you should probably know, but what little is left isn’t wrong as such.
Florida
sexeducationHow long until they replace driving lessons with a page that says “not driving a car is the only 100% effective method to prevent car crashes”?
For everything else there’s pornhub.
Conservatives… We were expecting all poor women to be pregnant by this time. Now we have a glut of pregnancy related paper and plastic products as well as an incoming avalanche of mini vans, baby carriers, Filipino immigrants to make more Filipino citizens to then care for all these Floridian people when they’re old and under the UnitedHealth umbrella to recover a few more billions. We were prepared! But now, sir, we have to live with this. I mean, I have to go get doughnuts and just look at the mass of people fucking everywhere that I have to scooch around just to get thru! This is horrible! And the Filipinos! Tabo! Tabo! Manang! Hay na ko! We need that law to make them all non citizens again! Hurry!
*not available in states that have banned online porn.
Imagine those VPNs just burning porn thru the cables. Imagine the size of their blue balls just waiting for a chance to see maybe some cleavage at church!
