Let’s face it, the dems don’t care about the commoners, the republicans are actually pure evil, everyone was happy when that shitstain CEO got shot.

Maybe we should build on this momentum we have to drive actual change at the political level.

my first act as president in 2029 would be to issue a full and unconditional pardon of the billionaire killer.

edit:

well alrighty then, followup question, does anyone want to join my newly formed political party? I’m going to start working on drafting our mission statement, or manifesto or whatever it should be called.

Further Edit: I set up a lemmy community for us to post shit about it. If you want to join, that’s our official, unofficial space. https://lemmy.world/c/newpoliticalparty

  • scarabic@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    12 days ago

    Because it will only spoil whichever major party is a little more closely aligned with it.

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        11 days ago

        This video gives a great visual explanation of why third parties in US politics can only be spoilers. They cannot build anything.

        https://youtu.be/qf7ws2DF-zk?si=WRctK96W6GrJJO2S

        America already has “real left” parties like the Peace & Freedom party and the Green party. Starting yet another tiny party to occupy the left will add nothing. And trying to grow any of these third parties can only do one thing: take votes from Democrats, thereby helping Republicans.

        It’s easy to say “US doesn’t have a real left party” but most people who care about that would rather not hurt Democrats and help Republicans, because Democrats are at least closer to the left out of the two major parties, even if neither is as far left as we would like.

        The only option is to join the Democratic party and attempt to shift it left. This is exactly what America’s most prominent 3 leftists have done: AOC, Dennis Kucinich, and Bernie Sanders. They know that 3rd parties are a death wish. This is an objective fact. Everyone who cares about the left needs to grow up, accept this, and move on. Just like Bernie has. You don’t see him calling for a 3rd party. And he’s clearly a “real leftist” by any measure.

        • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          11 days ago

          Yeah, FPTP. Im British mate. I know all about it.

          By real left, Im talking real terms, not relative to other parties.

          • scarabic@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            11 days ago

            I answered you, mate. These parties DO exist in the US they are just really small, and this is why.

            • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 days ago

              Theyre small cause of a lack of funding and an education system and media that tells people anything left is evil.

              In the UK we had Jeremy Corbyn run for PM in 2017, in spite of a character assassination that said he supported the IRA and would ruin the country (That was never backed up with any facts…), and people saying Labour just get us in debt (Again, bollocks.), he still came incredibly close to winning, much like Sanders.

              • scarabic@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                11 days ago

                Well I’m aware of them, however small they might be, and I support their values. I would still never vote for their presidential candidates because of FPTP.

                So I don’t think that funding and awareness are the issue. Even with those out of the way, it just doesn’t make sense to vote for them.

                You’re probably thinking I’m not a real left voter but I assure yo I read the Green and P&F voter guides every time I fill out a ballot, to understand their advice on measures and candidates, but would never, ever vote for one of their candidates in any FPTP race. It would only help conservatives.