Description: A picture titled “Russian plants” in a 3 x 3 grid with one of the grid items being Jill Stein, the rest are flora.

  • Chapelgentry@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 months ago

    “And maybe they should do it RIGHT NOW, and maybe I’ll vote then but it’ll still be for not Dems, and maybe they should also stop genocide, and maybe maybe maybe. …”

    Did I capture your full wishlist there? Anything else you’d like now without regard for how long it takes?

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      2 months ago

      Let’s be real here, Harris could bend over backwards and support every single one of their positions and they still would find an excuse not to vote for her. It’s not about actually achieving anything. If they actually cared about Palestinians then they’d work with the one viable candidate who could work towards a ceasefire (and Harris has openly said she wants a ceasefire and two-state solution, don’t give me that “both sides” bullshit. You know Trump is worse) instead of throwing away their vote and pushing nothingburger parties that can’t achieve anything in the current system and siphon votes away from the only viable party who could achieve a ceasefire.

      If they really cared about moving the country forward, they’d be working from within to push the Dems leftwards so that they might get what they want. Change doesn’t happen in a day, and it certainly won’t happen through third parties. In a FPTP system, change must happen from within.

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        2 months ago

        Isn’t that what they tried with Bernie? How many times should Charlie Brown try to kick that football?

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          It takes more than just Bernie and the Squad. They’re very much a step in the right direction, but the movement needs to be larger than that. Right now progressives don’t have enough seats in Parliament to be considered a serious threat. Change that, and we might start seeing serious progress. Until then, everyone should be working on the local and state level to push progressive politicians in office and most importantly working to keep regressives out.

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      2 months ago

      Did I capture your full wishlist there?

      No. Not even close.

      But yes having a liberated and democratic society that doesn’t support genocide is pretty high on the list.