• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Title is a little clickbaity seeing as this is specific to a local Philadelphia station. Would be nice if this was true though. There are really no consequences at all for making shit up.

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      Sadly, that’s a first amendment right. And the government grants the license so it’s a pretty open/shut case the license should be renewed.

      However, I draw issue with presenting opinions and falsehoods as “news.” News implies truth. Maybe shows that only pretend to be news should be forced to have a disclaimer beforehand. We already have disclaimers for plenty for media that don’t really need it.

      Knowingly presenting opinions and falsehoods as facts/truths should have consequences too. Though, that’s hard to prove.

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      There are no consequences for just about anything if you have enough money :)

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      They literally won a court case about being able to lie as a news organization, they made that possible so don’t hold you breath

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      We’ve unfortunately decided as a society to leave consequences to the state. The state is by and for capitalists only (i.e. capital owners, not you). When Fox is a threat to capitalist’s money and power, they’ll see real consequences, until then, probably not.

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      OAN and RT are not on FCC airwaves. They are on cable TV and internet. These lawsuits are for Fox affiliates that use licensed FCC tv frequencies.

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          My guess is that there is no set standard in law. When you deny someone else “equal opportunity “ they can challenge the denial to the FCC and in court. Whoever loses the FCC appeal files a federal lawsuit. Then it would be based on case law for the definition of bona fide in similar cases and, barring that, similar usage of the term. You duke it out with $1000/hr lawyers in federal court for 2-3 rounds until the most recent loser appeals to the Supreme Court where they turn youdown or you argue if the FCC even has the power to compel such an “equal opportunity “ based on the law which allows the rule to be written.

          At least that’s my layman’s understanding of the process.

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              Yeah, but what’s “authentic”? If you make up a news story about a really really good campaign stop, is it just a bona fide news story or is it an advertisement? News about his history of financial or humanitarian success?

              The devil, as always…

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    We should require PSAs at the end of all TikTok/Instagram/Youtube social media videos like they had at the end of cartoons when I was a whee PĒB.

    And FOX newscasters should have to dress up as Hanna Barbera characters while on screen.

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      There’s Fox “News” and 20c Fox/Fox Sports etc.Technically started in the same place, but the non-news side got sold off.

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      No, the fox news channels and fox business was not part of that acquisition. Channels like FX and National Geographic films that were made by 21st Century Fox were part of the acquisition.

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    When George W Bush stole the election in 2000 with the Brooks Brothers Riot I knew the conservatives days were numbered.

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      man, I wonder what the world would look like today without a second bush presidency

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      Not sure why you got down voted, but I don’t think it’s a matter of guts either.

      Democrats suffer from the same thing that has plagued them for the last couple decades: Individualism and the inability to coelesce. The GOP has their party hyjacked by morons, but look at how they are still able to fall behind the morons for the most part. This is why Democrats always seem weak. It’s not a lack of courage or good ideas, it’s just that everyone has their own opinion on how best to do things and they can never truly fall in line. “Herding cats” is most apt here.

      Is it necessarily better to have everyone together for the wrong reasons? Nah, I’m just pointing out reality.

      Another consideration is that while being in Congress is still a great way to become a multimillionaire, nothing will really change. Neither party wants to rock the boat while things are so lucrative. It’s all talk.

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        I agree with you 100% about how Republicans fall in-line like good little soldiers, but the fact remains that Democrats are almost never willing to go on the offensive. They will always react to whatever narrative Republicans are trying to push. And they’ve been like that for decades. That’s why even when Republicans are not in power, they are able to control the subjects under discussion. It is infuriating. Democrats are always too willing to make concessions. Too tilling to give in. Too willing to make peace. Republicans are bullies and they know they can get their way if they make a big enough stink about things. Republicans are always quickto attack, quick to go on the offensive.

        Look at the whole illegal immigrants situation. Republicans have shipped peopleto MA, DC,CA and probably a bunch of other places and each time Democrats have the same timid response. They denounce the actions and the hope it goes away and doesn’t happen again. But it does happen again and again and again because Democrats aren’t willing to actually go after the people organizing and carrying out these plans. Charge them with human trafficking. Make it very costly for anyone to help Republicans carry out these plans because they would he met with federal charges. Yet they don’t. They’re a bunch of pussies. They talk the big game and then nothing happens.

        Time and time again stuff like this happens and then they never follow through because they don’t have the balls to do it. Remember how right after Biden won but he wasn’t sworn into office yet,there were all these murmurs about expanding the Supreme Court to include more justices to dilute the voting power of Yhomas and the other right wing justices. There was all this planning and justifying that it would be legal. Democrats even controlled both sides of Congress. Then Biden was sworn in and that plan was never spoken of again.

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            If only one side respects any modicum of decorum, then news flash; there is no decorum.

            Dude is 100% right about Democrats. It’s why only those who fall in love come out, because the rest know that the average Dem ain’t gonna do a fucking thing for them.

            Choices are; Rep -> continue to tax you 35% plus unofficial (taxation without representation) taxes like mandated insurance until everyone is broke or in jail.

            Dem; SAME EXACT FUCKING THING but only at 70% the speed.

            Why do you think populism is back? Why did/does Trump and Sanders have/had so many supporters?

            I still vote for Sanders over anyone in the the Democratic party, without question. Cuz Sanders is willing to fight, and imo, for economic justice for all of us. The spoils need to be shared, the oligarchy dismantled, corporations de-peopled given moratoriums on business licenses and regulated to fucking high heaven -> the exact way the founding fathers intended and DID.

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                Close. More dripping, sneering sarcasm (snarcasm?) than anything else, as if saying thru tone “how is this not known?” A la Christian Slater in Pump up the Volume.

                Man that takes me back to childhood. Slater was like the Keanu of slackers for Gen X. Kind of typecast into that rebellion role, like how Ryan Reynolds has made a career doing Van Wilder in every movie.

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      Not really the issue at play here. If it isn’t granted it’s hard to see how they wouldn’t win on first amendment grounds. Not granting the license would have to be over something other than “you lied to everyone.”

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        You’re missing the point.

        The point isn’t to actually do it. Even though that should be what we do because up until the late 80s or early 90s, news stations were required by law to show both sides of a story and be reasonably unbiased.

        The point is to turn into a huge deal and bring the media focus on their horribly biased. If Democrats could merge forces and start hearings and make speeches about the bias of their coverage, other media outlets would start to cover the fake stories and outright lies that they run. No one is expecting to change hard-core Fox watcher’s minds, the point is to show just how biased they are and cement them as a propaganda media outlet for everyone else. Block them from the White House press pool. Expose them for repeating Russian talking points.

        You, me and most of the people here know this. We discuss this stuff all the time. But we aren’t your average American. Your average American gets maybe 5 minutes of news every day (if that). They might hear that Fox is the conservative network,but they might not realize just how bad they lie and just how much bias there really is.

        Look at the huge, massive, insane big of a deal that Republicans created over Behngazi or over Hillarys emails. These were far, far lesser deals than the propaganda that Fox has been feeding Americans for decades now, and yet Democrats are too spineless to ever really attack Fox head-on.

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      I don’t think they want to do that anyway. If fox isn’t being put on blast, CNN is next.

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    Or

    Just change the channel and lets not destroy the freedom of the press in our lifetime

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      And the people who don’t change the channel, believe the lies, and attack others because of it? The people who are emboldened in their racism because of Fox and those they support? The people who have an inaccurate world view because they believe the lies passed off as “entertainment” and opinion, but are called news? Tucker Carlson argued and won with the argument that no reasonable person would believe a thing he said and yet, he was one of their most popular segments. You really think we can just bury our heads in the sand with something like that?

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      By their own admission, they are entertainment not press. They are the television equivalent of screaming fire in a crowded theater.