• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    That’s a lot of nonsense if you aren’t going to actually analyze anything.

    What is “true” Communism?

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      4 months ago

      😂how to get to that I don’t analyse?

      For me true communism would be living in a group in consensus that nobody owns but the whole group together

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        😂how to get to that I don’t analyse?

        Because you’re doing a “no true Communism” bit that’s just purity testing, rather than accepting failures of AES as failures of AES and successes of AES as successes of AES.

        For me true communism would be living in a group in consensus that nobody owns but the whole group together

        Cool, so AES is AES and thus true attempts at Communism.

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          True attempt to achieve communism is not the same as achieving true communism, I’d say…

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            Why?

            What is the purpose of Communism? Communism is not “enlightenment” it isn’t a religuous status, it’s a process. Working to put theory to practice, and correct as you go, is Communism.

            The achievement of a “Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society,” ie Upper-Stage Communism, as Marx puts it, is a far-future society that has to be worked towards.

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              I don’t think current “AES” really work in the direction “stateless” nor "classless”. Maybe “moneyless” I could see that.

              But I absolutely agree that the achievement of an upper-stage Communism would be fabulous

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                  Because the people in power are not trying to make themselves obsolete and they all have some sort of class system that is actively maintained by the people in power

                  Or in which “AES” is that not the case?

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                    The government “collapsing itself” is not Marxist in any way, why would the government shrink itself? Additionally, what do you mean by “actively maintaining a class?” Have you read Marx? That might clear up some of your confusion.