• Beaver@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Also animal agriculture stealing food from people in the global south.

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      3 months ago

      https://awellfedworld.org/scarcity-vs-distribution/ yupp people want to pin it on climate change, which is a big problem, but don’t want to see how big an impact eating animals has on this stuff. Animal ag is terrible for the environment (emissions, deforestation, water use, and land destruction in non-forested areas), it steals crops out of our mouths, and it’s torturing and murdering literally incomprehensible numbers of innocent animals each year.

      If you’re reading this and still eat animal products, this is the sign that it’s time to stop. Please, the animals, the earth, and our own species can’t take it much longer, they should have never had to take any in the first place.

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        Meat and dairy consumption are a big factor, but they’re just symptoms of a larger problem, which is capitalism. Artificial scarcity makes people money, as do the meat and dairy industries. We should all be going after corporations and lobbyists, not individuals. Not that your comment came across as an attack, personal changes can be good, but they’re a drop in the massive wasteful bucket, just like carbon emissions and single use plastics. Just a distraction from the real issue.

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          Continuing to eat animals does create a pretty big conflict of interest tho, it’s a lot harder to be motivated to stop animal agriculture while you still use it. (Same can be said of fossil fuels, although outside the maga crowd it’s less common for people to have such strong emotional attachments to them, and the alternatives are much less controversial. It’s also a lot more feasible to stop eating animal products now than it is to stop using fossil fuels now)

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          We should all be going after corporations and lobbyists, not individuals.

          If we “go after” corporations and lobbyists, the individuals who buy their products will defend them.

          We can’t effectively fight factory farming when meat eating individuals demand politicians protect their hamburgers.

          We can’t effectively fight Big Oil when individual drivers demand politicians give them cheap gas and wider roads.

          We can’t effectively fight plastic production when individual customers demand plastic straws and bags and disposable everything.

          The idea that we can change capitalist society from the top down is a fiction designed to lull the individual consumer into a state of mindless consumption. You can keep driving and eating meat and throwing away bag after bag of plastic, without guilt, because they tell you your individual choices don’t matter. You can continue living your unsustainable lifestyle and buying everything the capitalist machine sells, because you’re voting for the right politicians, and that means you’re doing your part.

          Come on.

      • LowleeKun@feddit.org
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        3 months ago

        Any people who believe they can not, i would recommend going to eat out at some vegan places from time to time in order to realize that you won’t really miss out on anything. The fomo is not warrented. Also you won’t lose friends. Or anything really. You will gain however a good feeling about what you eat. Can recommend.

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            3 months ago

            Are you talking about people not wanting to be your friend because of you going/being vegan? I have yet to meet someone like this. Not sure i would try to befriend those people anyways, sounds like a special breed of intolerant prick.

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              Well yeah. The more you care, the more you will naturally disconnect for the average person around you. It’s not necessarily a bad thing.