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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    5 months ago

    i think its ‘barrier to entry’

    photoshop took skills that not everyone has/had keeping the volume low.

    these new generators require zero skill or technical ability so anyone can do it

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      5 months ago

      Scale also, you can create nudes of everyone on Earth in a fraction of the time it would take with Photoshop. All for the lowly cost of electricity.

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            5 months ago

            What if my goal is to constantly be led around by media every decade to fear things needlessly when when they use the same lazy appeals every decade.

            The right have immigrant headlines. The left seem to hate AI and technology now.

            What’s mind blowing is how the same headline are used for both.

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              5 months ago

              I don’t see anyone here hating AI. They are saying that the ability for virtually anyone with a brain cell to mass produce and disseminate convincing nudes of anyone should maybe be acknowledged and - god forbid - addressed.

              AI evangelists, however, literally cannot allow a single critique or word of caution when it comes to their precious church of LLM’s and image generation. It’s surreal tbh. You raise one concern and it’s endless shrill shrieks of “LUDDITE YOU HATE PROGRESS AND ARE CLOSE MINDED!!!11!”

              I have been using AI tools daily for years, well before chat GPT. I am a huge proponent of them.

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      5 months ago

      When Photoshop first appeared, image manipulations that would seem obvious and amateurish by today’s standards were considered very convincing—the level of skill needed to fool large numbers of people didn’t increase until people became more familiar with the technology and more vigilant at spotting it. I suspect the same process will play out with AI images—in a few years people will be much more experienced at detecting them, and making a convincing fake will take as much effort as it now does in Photoshop.

      • SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        5 months ago

        I have been a professional editor for decades and I can tell you that probably 30 to 40% of fakes still get past me, and I am much better at spotting these things any of you are lol

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      5 months ago

      imho, not dissimilar to model planes>drones.

      To operate a model plane, there was a not-small amount of effort you needed to work through (building, specialist components, local club, access to a proper field, etc.).
      This meant that by the time you were flying, you probably had a pretty good understanding of being responsible with the new skill.

      In the era of self-stabilising GPS guided UAVs delivered next-day ready-to-fly, the barrier to entry flew down.
      And it took a little while for the legislation to catch up from “the clubs are usually sensible” to “don’t fly a 2KG drone over a crowd of people at head height with no experience or training”

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      5 months ago

      It would also take a lot more effort to get something even remotely believable. You would need to go through thousands of body and face photos to get a decent match and then put in some effort pairing the two photos together. A decent “nude” photo of a celebrity would probably take at least a day to make the first one.

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      5 months ago

      Have you tried to get consistent goal orientated results from these ai tools.

      To reliably generate a person you need to configure many components, fiddle with the prompts and constantly tweak.

      To do this well in my eyes is a fair bit harder than learning how to use the magic wand in Photoshop.

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      5 months ago

      Ehhhh, I like to think that eventually society will adapt to this. When everyone has nudes, nobody has nudes.

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        5 months ago

        Unfortunately, I doubt it will be everyone. It will primarily be young women, because we hyper-sexualize those…

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        5 months ago

        You might think so, but I don’t hold as much hope.

        Not with the rise of holier than thou moral crusaders who try to slutshame anyone who shows any amount of skin.

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          I like to be optimistic, eventually such crusaders will have such tools turned against them and that will be that. Even they will begin doubting whether any nudes are real.

          Still, I’m not so naive that I think it can’t turn any other way. They might just do that thing they do with abortions, that is the line of reasoning that goes: “the only acceptable abortion is my abortion”, now changed to “the only fake nudes, are my nudes”