I’ll post a complaint about this in 5 minutes when my phone’s UI is responsive again.
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Then invoke your Phone’s power menu and Power Off. Wait 10s and then power phone back on.
I felt that one. Been putting off doing a backup and hard reset for months now. I can’t run two apps simultaneously unless I restart my android.
I’ve had my note 20 ultra for around 4 years and don’t think I’ve ever done a reset on it. Still works great.
Apps leaking memory in Android are just going to get automatically get killed by the OOM killer, I don’t think a restart is going to address that particular concern.
I have an S7 (yes I know it’s old) I still like it and it works - but - something happens about once or twice a month and it starts hanging up whenever a phone call connects and/or an app will get super laggy.
Anyway, reboot fixes it (so far) and nothing else I’ve tried does.
There’s definitely something with these older phones that is like a slow leak and the simple, easy, lasts for weeks fix is to just take 2 minutes for a full “turn it off and back on again”
Plus the overheating when something gets stuck doing a background thing. Reboot reboot.
I plan to use this phone until it dies, reboot stops fixing things, or needed apps are no longer working/supported.
Slack no longer works/supported, but that one I’m just like “oh, noooo” However I expect ones I actually need to start falling off and I’ll be lucky to get a couple more years of use.
My meandering point, some of us are still using Android phones where reboot helps a lot
It’s definitely not out of the question that a reboot helps, but an app-level memory leak is highly unlikely to be the culprit.
Especially since Most Android Apps are written in memory Safe languages Like Java or kotlin. It is most likely Apps getting stuck doing a Background process indefinitely
It’s not out of the question to have ‘memory leaks’ - apps accumulating more memory by keeping around references to more and more objects - but memory leaks in the stricter sense of not deallocating objects that you no longer have references to is less likely. Regardless, the OOM killer will come for your app, no matter how good you’ve been about managing your memory, as long as someone else wants to have the memory and you’re the one who has been active the least recently.
my phone won’t even do “force stop” anymore… fairphone 5 running whatever os fairphone ships, and all force stop does is put the app in the background or whatever, if it has an issue the issue will still be there when opening it again.
Fairphone 5 is running stock Android. Google has really fucked the Android OS
Go to settings;
type "build number " in the search bar;
click on the build number until you’re a dev.
Go into developer options;
type “background process limit”;
Choose the maximum number of applications you want to have in background.
Profit
Does this apply to processes that have battery optimization disabled? Like say, for example, if I had the limit set to five, and had 5 apps open, would I still be able to receive signal notifications (not using GCM, I think it’s webhooks)
Laughing in GrapheneOS
Laughs in iOS
Yall have to have some shady apps I have never had this issue. Apps starting on boot is not normal
Tell that to all the google apps with backdoor permissions that can’t be uninstalled.
I have those apps too. I’m just saying I have never had this issue. I am not saying it’s not legit it’s just strange.
I also don’t use any social media besides lemmy so that might also play a factor. And I block A LOT of ips on my phone.
748mb of RAM on my phone is currently being used by random crap I didn’t ask for, like Chrome and Messenger (neither of which have been used in years), smart view, DeX, settings suggestions, gallery stories, quallcom.atfwd, visit in (none of which I’ve every actually used in any capacity AFAIK), media storage, downloads manager, game booster, game optimizing service, phone, wifi calling, contacts, contacts storage, blocked number storage, CMHProvider, Mobile Location Protocol, google services framework, and Gmail (none of which I’ve asked to run or are being used by the things I have asked to run).
These aren’t just services either, they’re fully fleged background apps with app entries and everything. And not a one was started by me.
What phone you get. It’s sound like a Samsung have you seen if there is custom ROM you can run? https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#samsung
Also a lot of services like Location Protocol, google services frame, downloads manager, contacts. Are necessary for your phone to work at all. Turning them off and on when using them would destroy your battery.
I’m aware that I could flash a new ROM, and for security reasons that would probably be a good idea. However, I haven’t had an OS update in 4+ years and I like how everything works right now.
I can assure you that all the apps that I listed can be fully shut down without impacting stability. Contacts and Phone are probably there so receiving a call is fast, which is fine, but atfwd is only used for screen mirroring which I haven’t done in years, and DeX is for Desktop-ifying your phone, which I’ve never used and didn’t even know existed. These apps have no business being loaded all the time, even if they’re just libraries. Messenger isn’t even a system app, why is it allowed to start itself at all?
Services on the other hand, are usually much lighter and also more hidden. To even see them you need to enable dev options, and this is where things can start breaking. This is where google Play Services and some system processes are located, as well as the home screen service and keyboard service. Even here there are 2 smart home processes which I’ve never used, as well as an iris scanner I’ve never enabled.
Most of this is besides the point anyway, which is that system apps can be just as guilty of hogging resources as any poorly made app short of a miner. Even the Android OS is hella bloated, taking a full third of this flagship phone’s RAM at all times, and 6GB of storage. That’s nearly desktop sized resorces. If someone uses more common apps than I do regularly or don’t bother to disable bloatware, I’d bet this list would be much worse.
Does it fucking still have a memory leak fml
You need to install Force Stop App(NO ROOT) and run it whenever your phone starts to feel sluggish. Helps a lot!
Or maybe uninstall some of those shady apps.
Modern OSes handle memory management and background tasks. Unless you have something truly malicious running, you’re just getting in your own way by force quitting apps.
https://qz.com/stop-closing-your-iphone-s-background-apps-1851269132
is it better than Greenify?
I still have app killer no matter how many times google whines it’s no longer supported
That kind of shit is why I finally switched to iOS. Android’s App Store has a huge seedy ghetto.
That’s the beauty of android. The Google Play store is trash so use something like f-droid instead.
I just got so tired of trying to find things that don’t suck, messing with bootloaders and custom ROMs, troubleshooting device-specific problems, all of that. I’m too old for that shit now. I get people doing it, but I just said “fuck it” and got the device that mostly Just Works and pairs nicely with my mac. I know, evil blah blah, but I also think Google is worse.
Fair enough. And yeah, I would also rather have an iPhone for daily activities over Google Android.
