Many pirated games installer doesn’t work under wine (like from xatab, RG Mechanic, Razor, etc) unless you download pre-installed games like from IGG Games or you just download pirated gog games
Buggy glitching games work under wine (i don’t know why that happened)
Many mod organizer & tools (MO, VORTEX, NMM, etc) doesn’t work unless you download old version or download some sketchy dll files from sketchy website to make those programs works well
Sometimes after running games under wine my system crashes like unable to restart/shutdown or failed to open some programs like dolphin, terminal, etc (maybe bc my system running on wayland)
No Photoshop, After Effects, or Microsoft Office (yes…i know linux has similar programs but those suck & my workplace has standard)
Hard to fine tuning some apps unless you wanna do some dirty work in YAML or XML or CONF files
Mod organizer 2 leastest exe work with wine (I used Lutris) I have yet to find a games installers that didn’t work with wine (I download my games from fit girl repacks)
Xatab’s work fine. I only had one pirate installer in hundreds of games that i couldn’t get to work. You sometimes need vcrun (newest is vcrun2022) from winetricks to get it working.
Mod organizers usually have a linux version or at least work in wine. What hurts is wabbajack hasn’t and doesn’t work.
Edit: nevermind. The one that didn’t work at all was the installer of ‘Network Addon Mod’ for SimCity4k.
I think it comes down to 2 main reasons, and some members of the libreoffice suite definitely do a better job than others.
Comparability with MS Office, it’s really difficult to use these programs when you can’t reliably collaborate with people using the de-facto standard office software. Impress is exceptionally bad at this.
User interface clunkines, the ribbon ui Microsoft uses in modern office versions is really nice, and makes finding the actions you need really easy. This is coming from someone who used office 03 and 07, it’s not just a learning thing, it’s a better design.
These issues are definitely a bigger deal on some parts of the suite than others. I’ve found Calc to be a solid replacement for Excel, but when I’m making spreadsheets I’m not fiddling with complex formatting at all. Impress is on the opposite end of the spectrum. It has horrible comparability with PowerPoint, and I need to get things looking just right when I make a presentation. It’s difficult to find even basic formatting options. I could probably solve the usability issues by reading a few tutorials, but the comparability issues hold me back from putting the time in, since I have no idea how a presentation will look when someone loads it in PowerPoint anyway.
I dont know but i like libreoffice better in terms of ui.
But now I think I understood the formatting issue in calc tho. i dont know how excel handles this
playing around with Impress i can get pretty good slides without any issues(yet). I think your problem is only with portability. I guess that will remain unsolved for a long time.
edit :
So yeah now I dont see the formatting problem, can you elaborate on that?(what other formatting issue you faced?)
Yes the PowerPoint ui is much better. It takes more space but it’s much easier to find features you might not use as frequently.
I haven’t done much switching between calc and excel. Formatting issues come up when making or editing a document in libreoffice and opening it in MS office. Especially with impress, the position and sizes of objects will be very different between the two programs. This makes opening a presentation from impress with PowerPoint on a different computer impractical.
I like Libreoffice ui better. There are different ui modes too if you want to experiment. I selected tabbed compact since I like compact UI, there are other modes which takes more space and have more features visible probably. Anyway UI might be about preferences but at least there are different UI modes. If you hate all of them, its okay.
Almost all your problems sounds like problems when mixing MS office. Do you face other problems that is not a compatibility issue with MS?
Nothing that isn’t subjective, but the comparability issues are a complete dealbreaker, because interoperability is so necessary. This is definitely something that can be fixed since Google Slides is no where near as bad about this.
Vortex works quite well for me, the only game that is not working correctly is BG3 because of the third party tool to mod the game requires .NET 8 and even if I install it with ProtonTricks/WineTricks the tool doesn’t recognize it. With the game receiving official mod support I think the issue will be fixed.
The first one I’ve never encountered, but I also never heard about those (only razor). Fit girl always works (the one with Amelie). I’ve tried others and also worked.
It could be those installers have dependencies that are not in your base bottle?
From my experience in Linux:
Mod organizer 2 leastest exe work with wine (I used Lutris) I have yet to find a games installers that didn’t work with wine (I download my games from fit girl repacks)
Fitgirl installers just crash on me 🤷♂️
Have you tried running it with Bottles?
Weird, what distro are you using?
Nobara. But I’ve had them work on nobara before
It not working on certain distros is yet an other point of pain for Linux
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My solution to #1 is installing it in a VM and copying the installed game over. It works, but quite annoying
Xatab’s work fine. I only had one pirate installer in hundreds of games that i couldn’t get to work. You sometimes need vcrun (newest is vcrun2022) from winetricks to get it working.
Mod organizers usually have a linux version or at least work in wine. What hurts is wabbajack hasn’t and doesn’t work.
Edit: nevermind. The one that didn’t work at all was the installer of ‘Network Addon Mod’ for SimCity4k.
You’ve just said your 5 biggest problems with Linux are things that Microsoft did.
Microsoft made mod organizers not work?
It does though
Well this is why I’m asking, it does seem to work for my 100% Linux friend.
Vortex is written in .Net, so, yeah.
Can you explain why MS office alternatives like libreoffice suck?
I think it comes down to 2 main reasons, and some members of the libreoffice suite definitely do a better job than others.
Comparability with MS Office, it’s really difficult to use these programs when you can’t reliably collaborate with people using the de-facto standard office software. Impress is exceptionally bad at this.
User interface clunkines, the ribbon ui Microsoft uses in modern office versions is really nice, and makes finding the actions you need really easy. This is coming from someone who used office 03 and 07, it’s not just a learning thing, it’s a better design.
These issues are definitely a bigger deal on some parts of the suite than others. I’ve found Calc to be a solid replacement for Excel, but when I’m making spreadsheets I’m not fiddling with complex formatting at all. Impress is on the opposite end of the spectrum. It has horrible comparability with PowerPoint, and I need to get things looking just right when I make a presentation. It’s difficult to find even basic formatting options. I could probably solve the usability issues by reading a few tutorials, but the comparability issues hold me back from putting the time in, since I have no idea how a presentation will look when someone loads it in PowerPoint anyway.
you mean this
look better than this??
I dont know but i like libreoffice better in terms of ui.
But now I think I understood the formatting issue in calc tho. i dont know how excel handles this
playing around with Impress i can get pretty good slides without any issues(yet). I think your problem is only with portability. I guess that will remain unsolved for a long time.
edit :
So yeah now I dont see the formatting problem, can you elaborate on that?(what other formatting issue you faced?)
Yes the PowerPoint ui is much better. It takes more space but it’s much easier to find features you might not use as frequently.
I haven’t done much switching between calc and excel. Formatting issues come up when making or editing a document in libreoffice and opening it in MS office. Especially with impress, the position and sizes of objects will be very different between the two programs. This makes opening a presentation from impress with PowerPoint on a different computer impractical.
I like Libreoffice ui better. There are different ui modes too if you want to experiment. I selected tabbed compact since I like compact UI, there are other modes which takes more space and have more features visible probably. Anyway UI might be about preferences but at least there are different UI modes. If you hate all of them, its okay.
Almost all your problems sounds like problems when mixing MS office. Do you face other problems that is not a compatibility issue with MS?
Nothing that isn’t subjective, but the comparability issues are a complete dealbreaker, because interoperability is so necessary. This is definitely something that can be fixed since Google Slides is no where near as bad about this.
Vortex works quite well for me, the only game that is not working correctly is BG3 because of the third party tool to mod the game requires .NET 8 and even if I install it with ProtonTricks/WineTricks the tool doesn’t recognize it. With the game receiving official mod support I think the issue will be fixed.
The first one I’ve never encountered, but I also never heard about those (only razor). Fit girl always works (the one with Amelie). I’ve tried others and also worked.
It could be those installers have dependencies that are not in your base bottle?
Mate you can’t tune apps on windows at all. Most of those things actually work on Linux. You just exposing yourself
For the first one, try Lutris