• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I was saying the reason to put the dishes away is convenience, not that dishes literally couldn’t be washed otherwise.

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      6 months ago

      Yes, and the reason to not beat clothes with a rock by the stream and put them in the washer instead is convenience, but my daughter knows that when I tell her, “if you don’t put clothes in the wash, you’ll have to wear stinky clothes,” it isn’t a lie, even though she understands that, if she wanted to, she could go out to the stream in the middle of February, break through the ice for the water, get a rock and start beating on the clothes.

      Because she’s not a fucking idiot.

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        6 months ago

        I mean the explanation is not 100% true in the sense that it’s not the actual reason, but if she isn’t supposed to believe it then it’s not a lie in that sense, if you require intent. Not all definitions do, so it still could be a lie.

        Because she’s not a fucking idiot.

        I don’t know enough to comment on that

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          6 months ago

          I don’t consider it a lie. She doesn’t consider it a lie. Only you consider it a lie.

          Why does your opinion on the matter have any relevance?

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            6 months ago

            Me and some definitions of the word, correct.

            Why does your opinion on the matter have any relevance?

            I mean, does it?

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              6 months ago

              Are you saying you give someone your contentious opinion, an opinion that implies via the context of the discussion before you butted in that my daughter is stupid and I’m a liar, when it has no relevance? That sort of sounds like trolling to me.

              Are you a troll?

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                I didn’t imply anything about your daughter. I was thinking you might be a bit simple since the sink think was so hard for you but it might’ve been something else too, so I don’t necessary think that. Not sure where I implied you are a liar, I think you implied that about me but I don’t remember doing it back. Could be I forgot.

                I just mentioned how what you said was lying. It was imo relevant in that discussion. For my opinions, I’m not sure which ones you mean. I hope you found them relevant but they were really just additional comments brought on by the discussion. I thought they were relevant.

                Oh and no, I’m not trolling. I try to answer your questions as best I can. You are asking about this stuff and I’m always not sure of the relevance, but I hope you don’t think I’m a troll just for answering.

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                  6 months ago

                  Do you not understand what the word context means? Because I would bet you know what it means since you seem to be literate enough.

                  Again, you implied I was a liar and she was stupid via the context of the discussion before you butted in.

                  The civil thing to do would be to apologize for implying such a thing even if you didn’t intend to. Since I’m now fairly certain you’re just a troll, I will not be holding my breath for that apology.

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                    6 months ago

                    I understand context. I’m just saying you’ve misunderstood what I’ve implied. I don’t doubt you believe you understood it correctly but I’m just saying you haven’t.

                    The civil thing to do would be to apologize for implying such a thing even if you didn’t intend to.

                    I mean I didn’t imply such a thing. I’m sorry you felt so though. I understand why you’re upset.