• Promethiel@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This. Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues; people gotta learn to keep their targets sighted on the actual scum Insidiously using empathy to cross purposes.

    The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.

    Don’t tolerate the intolerant; don’t shield them with the benefit of the doubt or stop those with the conviction to stand up for those being told to sit either.

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      6 months ago

      Thank you. I’ve had to explain this paradox to multiple tens of close friends and associates often, and recently.

      This is much better worded than any of my attempts. Kudos.

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      Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues

      JFC, so just say you’re an enthusiastic ableist… You honestly don’t deserve any attention beyond that point, but since I’m here, and you’re full of shit, I’ll give it a quick note in case anyone actually buys in to your bad bad take:

      The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.

      No where do I even imply anything near “don’t punch a Nazi”, what I’m literally saying is “don’t make fun of people for wearing diapers” and “criticise nazis for their nazi actions, not for what they wear”
      According to you we should go around making fun of everyone who wears diapers because you can’t think of a better way to tell them apart from fucking Nazis., and also are unable to think of better things to criticise them for, than wearing said diaper.

      You’re a pathetic ableist joke who clearly cares more about their “right” to abuse disabled people than their duty to do anything against nazis. You’re literally playing their game for them - shifting focus away from them being fascist, right in to the ableist jokes you just find too funny to not participate in, to the point of making the exact same kinds of excuses they do.

      Congratulations, you’re on the wrong side, no matter what nonsense you tell yourself to feel better.