I’ve been trying Tumbleweed for my gaming needs and so far it seems to be working relatively well. My issue is about removed packages. When I first installed TW, I removed quite a few packages I did not want (KSudoku, LibreOffice, and a few others). It has been a little since I’ve turned on my PC but yesterday I noticed that KSudoku, LibreOffice, and really all other apps I thought I had uninstalled (sudo zypper remove <package-name>) were back on my desktop. I thought “maybe I forgot to uninstalled them in the first place” so I went through and removed all the unwanted stuff again. Since it had been awhile I updated my OS right after uninstalling those packages. After the update (sudo zypper up), I rebooted and immediately noticed that all those packages I had just removed were back (AGAIN). So WTF… am I not removing those unwanted packages “properly”? Why do they keep coming back after updates? How can I prevent this?

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    3 months ago

    Patterns almost made me skip opensuse, until I locked most of them so they won’t annoy me anymore. I start with only selecting some basic patterns in the installer:

    apparmor      
    base          
    documentation 
    enhanced_base 
    minimal_base  
    sw_management 
    x86_64_v3 
    

    When installed, I run this in my fresh system:

    # save the currently installed patterns in a variable
    installedPatterns=$(zypper se --type pattern --installed-only | grep -E "(.*\|){3}" | cut -d'|' -f2 | tail -n+2)
    
    # lock every existing pattern
    sudo zypper addlock --type pattern $(zypper search --type pattern | grep -E "(.*\|){3}" | cut -d'|' -f2 | tail -n+2)
    
    # lock every package starting with "yast"
    sudo zypper addlock yast*
    
    # unlock the patterns you had installed
    sudo zypper removelock --type pattern $installedPatterns
    

    Pro:

    • Only real dependencies get installed when adding packages
    • Nothing re-installs because it belongs to an installed pattern
    • No need for --no-recommends

    Con:

    • You have to find out the packages you need yourself

    For a minimal gnome install, use these packages (likely some more depending on you setup):

    avahi
    evince
    flatpak
    fwupd
    gedit
    gnome-calculator
    gnome-disk-utility
    gnome-keyring
    gnome-session-wayland
    gnome-system-monitor
    gnome-terminal
    gnome-tweaks
    gnome-user-share
    gparted
    gtk2-metatheme-arc
    gtk3-metatheme-arc
    gtk4-metatheme-arc
    libqt5-qtwayland
    loupe
    MozillaFirefox
    MozillaFirefox-translations-common
    pipewire-pulseaudio
    qt6-wayland
    sane-airscan
    simple-scan
    tpm2.0-tools
    wireplumber-audio
    xdg-user-dirs
    xdg-user-dirs-gtk
    

    Bonus tip: When removing software, use the -u flag for less bloat being left behind:

     -u, --clean-deps
           Automatically remove dependencies which become unneeded after removal of requested packages.