• grue@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Tokyo (mostly) isn’t sprawl; that’s just how much space 40 million people take up.

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      6 months ago

      That is still better than the alternative of suburbs. Could it be better designed or something. Idk, maybe.

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          6 months ago

          Where do you suggest all the people go?

          Are you really anti urban or are you anti people?

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            6 months ago

            I’m anti so many people that you need a dense urban area 80 miles across to fit them all *edit on looking it up it’s not all that dense, it’s just a big sprawling city

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                6 months ago

                Implement proper demography and population growth schemes so that you don’t end up with so many people in the first place, manage your population distribution on a national level so as not to overwhelm the natural resources of any one area, build walkable communities with a variety of density to suit peoples differing needs

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                  6 months ago

                  So you propose a population control scheme where people won’t be allowed to have children unless allowed by the government or some kind of max cap of children per parent?

                  The government should also relocate people or forbidd them to have children unless they move?

                  Isn’t it honestly best to have very dense areas so that the real natural resources (which I assume you mean trees and shit) are untouched.

                  I don’t see what walkable communities have anything to do with this. Dense urban areas are usually the most walkable areas.

                  Most cities if not all cities aren’t equally dense everywhere so we can check that.

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                    6 months ago
                    1. One-child policies have been sucessful in China and India, disincentivising large families doesn’t need to include banning people from having kids

                    2. No, the government should encourage busineses to disperse throughout the country and build affordable housing in multiple smaller cities

                    3. Again, no. Nature can only cope with a certain amount of foot traffic, the natural areas surrounding a city will survive better with fewer people

                    4. Tokyo is over 80 miles across. It takes over an hour to drive from one side to the other on the motorway It also isn’t particularly dense; it has a lower population density than London or Madrid. It’s just big.

                    Going back to the original post, compare the Shire to Mordor. If you had as many hobbits as you had orcs they wouldn’t all fit in the shire (without building highrises). Their low density village centric way of life only works because there aren’t very many of them.