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    This is nothing to brag about, when Android needs this to run smoothly, compared to the same performance of a 6 GB RAM iPhone.

    Edit: Just look at benchmarks and every day use cases. How exactly has any Android smartphone ever achieved any significant speed gains by using huge amounts of RAM compared to the then-current iPhone model? I agree with the Apple criticism when it comes to computers. When it comes to efficiency of smartphones, Android just seems to have tons of overhead and has always needed significantly more RAM than iPhones while not being faster at all. Maybe we can put the „look at how edgy I am for not using Apple devices“ aside for a moment.

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        I can say that it wasn‘t any of the Android edgelords or Linux neckbeards.

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          Some of us want to buy tools instead of toys. 4GB was great for the xbox 360 slim. Will it run anything a sane person would get a mac for? Probably not, most mac DAW I’ve used personally are hungry and 4gb is less than the machine I had my last crash filled experience on.

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            What most people use a Mac for could be just as well handled by a Chromebook and an Apple decal.

            At least in the consumer market. Not knocking graphic artists or any other industry that prefers Apple (though I’m still really not sure why, at this point it seems to go back to things that don’t apply anymore)

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            I work with my Mac every day. It‘s not a toy. I chose the platform in the early 2000s because I liked the OS, the far superior app experience across many 3rd party apps and because I like to work with things I like aesthetically. I chose a 32 GB MacBook Pro with M1 Pro and paid for the upgrade. Because I could and because I wanted to (100% tax deduction helped as well). No need for pity or anything.

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      Android has a garbage collector, meaning it requires an additional 2GB of RAM of overhead to keep things smooth. iPhones run significantly hotter than Androids, and consume more energy to achieve their performance gains.

      It’s not true to simply state “one is better than the other”. There’s various metrics in which either one may be better.

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        That‘s exactly what I was criticizing. So how is “more RAM = better“ as an absolute statement right, then?

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            Okay. But why is it that Android phones don‘t all just have 128 GB of RAM built in, then? I‘m still talking about smartphones only. And there, RAM is completely irrelevant for users unless it‘s a necessity for the OS and for apps to run well. This is the case for Android smartphones. This is not the case for iPhones. Because everything you want to do just works, without thinking about RAM. This has been the case since the iPhone X.

            But here it seems to be really hard to accept that getting an iPhone is the far superior choice for many people, also for tech savvy people. While others choose an Android smartphone and are happy with that.

            And for computers: just accept that it‘s plain economy calculus to offer 8 GB RAM as standard because this will lead more buyers to choose an upgrade and pay more than the standard price, instead of accusing Apple to offer this without this plan in mind. Just don‘t buy these machines and continue your life as a superior tech being, where companies like Samsung or Dell have the sole purpose to make as little profit as possible.

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          jfc this is inane.

          there’s this thing called multitasking, you might have heard of it. when you want to open more than one app and use them all at the same time, GUESS WHAT BRIGHT LIGHTS? Takes more memory.

          This is the dumbest shit take I’ve ever seen.

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            I‘m talking about smartphones. Funny that you‘d call me bright lights when you even lack the basic skill of reading.

            Never had any problems with „multitasking“ there since the iPhone 5.

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              LOL, you think people don’t multitask on smart phones and tablets?

              oof… and yes, on android you can have both open on the same screen at the same time. I don’t know about fischer price unix, er, aye-aye-aye-os…

              nah, didn’t misread, you’re def the sharpest tool in the spoon drawer.

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                Sure. I have just never encountered any problems. I used to, to be honest, as mentioned back with the iPhone 4 where Safari tabs were reloading because of the lack of RAM. But Android had its own problems back then, for example with the update policy of most manufacturers leaving my wife‘s Android phone obsolete after only one year.

                What exactly do you do? Hook up your smartphone as a desktop replacement with a bulky USB dongle, firing up some CAD software on two 6K displays while rendering an 8K HDR video in the background? People never disappoint creating completely made-up scenarios just to discredit.

                Never talked about tablets, so it’s reading – again!

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                  I mention tablets because it’s the same os - iOS or Android - on both. tsk. guess you forgot that point.

                  or it never occurred to you. bright lights indeed.

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                    You still haven‘t come up with a multitasking smartphone use case that an iPhone can‘t handle compared to an Android smartphone due to lack of RAM.