• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    If that’s how it works, then a stable anarchist society is impossible. The first asshole that comes along with a bigger gun than everyone else will have it right back to a dictatorship.

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      5 months ago

      That’s true for all types of society. But it also means that a completely anarchist society is more stable than the rest because the means of self defence are equally distributed and that everyone would rise against such authoritarian attack.

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        5 months ago

        the means of self defence are equally distributed

        That has never been, and will never be true. You could magically eliminate all weapons on the planet simultaneously and it still won’t be true, since some people are bigger and stronger than others.

        And in case you haven’t been paying attention to history; authoritarians very rarely just show up out of nowhere and take over. They are usually installed as leader after some form of revolution, then the title just gets transferred once the authoritarian system is in place. It’s usually far more insidious than just some guy the village has to band together to fight off.

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          5 months ago

          It doesn’t mean that every person has equal ability to physically defend themselves, but that society has the mechanisms to defend everyone that is being attacked. A grandma doesn’t need to be able to self defend against a thug in the street if the people nearby do it for her.

          The second paragraph is not relevant as there are no historical examples of a dictator getting into power from within an anarchist society.

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            5 months ago

            You’re at the magical thinking “And then of course we will all…” crutch that a lot of philosophies lean on

            Capitalism: We’ll deregulate and open the market to everyone, and then there will be “perfect competition” in a “free market”

            Communism: We have state socialism until society is prepared, and then transition to communism

            Anarchism: We won’t have a central authority to prevent aggression, obviously we will work together as mutual interest aligns. And 100% no roving bands of raiders or warlords will ever ruin our society!