A common question about universal basic income, or UBI, is how people spend the money, but early trials are showing promising results.
  • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
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    7 months ago

    So, in summary…

    • Original comment: “We don’t need studies”
    • Me: “Yes, we do need studies. This is important data to keep track of to make sure the money is being put where it’s most desperately needed.”
    • You: “We don’t need to keep track of where money is going, people are honest. We have studies!”

    In other words…

    • Original comment: “Studies are useless!”
    • Me: “Studies are not useless”
    • You: “Studies are useless, because we have proof that studies are useless, via a study”
    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
      32·
      7 months ago

      Original comment: we don’t need oversight.
      You: we should have oversight because people might waste money.
      Me: even if people waste money that will be less money wasted than is spent on the oversight, allowing more people to be helped.

      • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
        12·
        7 months ago

        Actual original comment’s very first sentence:

        The entire concept of a scientific study to determine whether people spend this money wisely is bunk

        You: putting words in my mouth, doubling down, and missing the point.

        Me: Over this.

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
          2·
          7 months ago

          Actual original comment’s very first sentence:

          The entire concept of a scientific study to determine whether people spend this money wisely is bunk

          So as I said: saying we don’t need oversight.

          You: putting words in my mouth, doubling down, and missing the point.

          You:

          But yeah, if you’re asking for me or anyone else to give up a portion of our salaries to create universal basic income, etc, it needs to be proven to be a net benefit, and how “wisely” that money is being spent is important.

          Sure sounds like you’re saying “we should have oversight because people might waste money.” I don’t see how that is putting words in your mouth. If I am misrepresenting your point the correct way to respond is with a clarification or restating of your point. A generic “yOuR pUtTiNg WoRdS iN mY mOuTh” and going off in a huff does nothing to clarify point or show how it was “misrepresented.”

          I was in no way saying your argument was a bad opinion to have, just that I disagreed with it and gave a counter argument.