https://xkcd.com/2912

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𝓘 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓴 𝓬𝓪𝓹𝓲𝓽𝓪𝓵 𝓛 𝓲𝓼 𝓹𝓻𝓸𝓫𝓪𝓫𝓵𝔂 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓶𝓸𝓼𝓽 𝓯𝓾𝓷 𝓽𝓸 𝔀𝓻𝓲𝓽𝓮, 𝓽𝓱𝓸𝓾𝓰𝓱 𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻𝓬𝓪𝓼𝓮 𝓺 𝓲𝓼 𝓪𝓵𝓼𝓸 𝓪 𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓸𝓷𝓰 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Serious question for people younger than me: How did you come up with a signature if you didn’t learn cursive?

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        7 months ago

        They are not especially useful now, but back before everything was computerized, signing your name on a check or a credit card receipt was a way you could help stop people from committing fraud if they stole your card or your checkbook.

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      7 months ago

      Wait your signature is supposed to just be your name in cursive? But then wouldn’t that defeat the point? I thought in the olden days it was supposed to be like a proof that you were the right person since you knew how your signature was written.

      Anyways, for my signature I just kinda designed it. It was ages ago so I forgot my process, but it was deliberate and I remember making a whole bunch of sketches before finding one I liked. And since then I’ve incrementally improved it.

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        7 months ago

        Although cursive has a unified design, everyone writes cursive a little differently. The idea is that cursive is designed to write whole words in a single stroke. The concept of a secure signature in cursive is that the more work a single stroke is, the more uniquely a person writes it.

        That is to say, even though you may have the same name as someone else, it’s extremely unlikely that a person can copy your nuances precisely enough to forge your signature on the fly. It isn’t a perfect system, but it’s easy enough to verify a signature that people could do it before technology was around to aid that process.

        That concept is also why they say the actual design of your signature is less important than the consistency of doing it the same every time.

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          There was some guy years and years ago who tried to see how ridiculous he could make his signature and have a store still accept it. As I recall he got to the point of drawing pictures on the receipt. Eventually he tried to buy something expensive like a TV for +1000 bucks before someone finally said something.

          Of course now that search engines suck I’m having trouble finding the writeup he did.

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            7 months ago

            At one time illiterate people could just mark an X. The security of a signature isn’t really in it’s uniqueness or it’s relationship with your name. Security of a signature is down to the fact that you could to prison for forgery if you fake someone else’s signature.

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        7 months ago

        Everyone I know my age and older signs their name in an approximation of cursive, but in a unique way.

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      7 months ago

      I put an unreasonable amount of effort into a cool signature. But I so rarely have to sign anything these days! Disappointing.

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        I guess it’s because I have a lot of health issues, but I have to sign my name all the time. Occasionally when I pay with a card too.

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      I’m almost 50 and I’ve always had a signature that looks like I just wrote my name like normal. I’ve had a few people try to tell me it’s not a “real” signature. WTFever, it’s mine, and if someone tries to fake it, you’ll still be able to tell the difference, isn’t that the whole point?

    • HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de
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      7 months ago

      In Germany, we did learn cursive (and its still being taught). Although barely anyone uses it anymore, I find it very useful for exams

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      7 months ago

      I just write my name like I usually write it?

      It’s very rare for me to sign anything anyways.

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          7 months ago

          Yeah, but badly print because I have terrible handwriting.

          A signature can be whatever the fuck you want.

          It can be a drawing of a pony if you so desire.

          Also is it still possible to sign when doing a card purchase where you live? I have never seen anyone ever do that and some stores explicitly disallow it.

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            I can’t remember when I last had to do it, but I definitely remember having to do the stupid ‘sign with your finger’ thing somewhere recently. I’m guessing companies like Square that serve smaller businesses must still do it.