• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    If there’s no one to vote for that has a chance of beating Trump other than Biden, I guess I’ll vote for Biden.

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      8 months ago

      I know for the sake of pride you aren’t going to openly acknowledge this, given how pointedly you’re refusing to engage with anything I’m saying, but at least admit it to yourself: voting for Biden is sending a signal that the democrats can allow as much genocide as they want so long as they can convince you the other side will be worse.

      If you think that’s worth the trade-off, fine, but don’t pretend that that isn’t the trade-off you’re making.

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        The trade-off is stopping Trump from continuing the genocide in the U.S. that he and his Republican friends are already a part of and which my daughter would be a victim of.

        So yeah, saving my daughter’s life is sure as hell worth the trade-off.

        And I’m pretty amused that you think it sends that message after the primaries. Because the time to challenge Biden was before the primaries.

        Did you do anything about that? Did you canvas for any primary rival of Biden’s?

        Because if I’m sending a signal to the Democrats that “as much genocide as they want” is okay… unless you’ve been canvassing for Dean Phillips or Marianne Willaimson, I think you have been too.

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          If the democrats win this election while running a candidate that’s twiddling his thumbs over multiple genocides, then the next time they’re presiding over one, they’re going to have solid data that tells them that they don’t have to bother themselves about it because their voter base will elect them anyway.

          It’s really that simple.

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            8 months ago

            Your lack of answering my question is actually an answer.

            You did nothing about Biden being the frontrunner. You did no canvassing. Yet somehow you bear no responsibility in your criticism.

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              8 months ago

              Similarly your lack of engaging with the point I keep repeating to you past an unsubstantiated “no” is also an answer.

              Yet somehow you bear no responsibility in your criticism.

              This is just whataboutism. I could be the guiltiest person on the planet, and that wouldn’t change the fact that electing Biden while he’s failing to stop three (?) genocides is a clear signal to the DNC that the amount of genocide happening on their watch has little to do with their eventual success or failure.

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                And yet, the time to do something about that has still passed and you still did nothing about it when you had the time.

                I know you want to avoid all culpability and put it on me, but sorry. I’m putting my child first. And that means stopping Trump no matter who the Democrats choose.

                I’m not a Democrat anyway.

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                  I know you want to avoid all culpability and put it on me

                  “culpability” seems a lot more important to you than it does to me

                  and again, let’s presume i’m the worst person in the world and i’m guilty : it doesn’t change anything about what i’ve said

                  and you know it doesn’t matter if you’re a registered democrat, right? your vote still shows up in the tally just the same

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                    Of course it matters if I’m a Democrat. I don’t care about teaching them a lesson. All I care about is saving my daughter’s life.

                    The fact that you seem to think that voting to stop Trump in order to save my daughter’s life is a moral failing on my part sincerely makes me hope you don’t have any kids.

                    Sorry, my daughter’s life is the most important thing in the world to me and I would immediately sacrifice my own life to save hers. If you have children and you wouldn’t do the same, I hope someone calls CPS on you.

                    The funny thing is, you keep saying things like this- “If the democrats win this election while running a candidate that’s twiddling his thumbs over multiple genocides, then the next time they’re presiding over one, they’re going to have solid data that tells them that they don’t have to bother themselves about it because their voter base will elect them anyway.”

                    And yet you have clearly not done a single thing about it except berate people on the internet. You have given zero solutions. You obviously did not help to primary him.

                    Frankly, I’m tired of an armchair quarterback telling me that I’m in favor of genocide because I’m trying to save my daughter’s life. The fucking gall you have.