Come on now. I’m sure that anyone who can keep the overview over all the brackets in a line of Lisp code, has the mental capacity to engage in a civil discussion, offer arguments to support their view and cite credible sources. So let’s try again.
My argument is as follows:
As long as there is no adequate long term storage facility for nuclear waste, we should not produce more nuclear waste
I’ve answered this question a number of times in this thread in several different ways. It’s pretty clear that there’s a communication gap here. I’m not able to express my point any more clearly than I already have.
I’m really curious what it is you’re trying to achieve here. If you’ve stated your arguments, and provided your sources then be confident in the quality of the argument you’ve made and move on. You’re not going to get me to agree with the point you’re making or change my point of view. It’s just not going to happen. Other people reading this thread can make up their own mind whose argument they find more persuasive.
However, going over and over in circles and regurgitating the same points achieves absolutely nothing. There will be no breakthrough in this discussion. As someone who has mental capacity to write code, I also have mental capacity to detect when a conversation reaches a halting state. It’s a skill I’d encourage your to try and develop to avoid wasting your life on pointless discussions.
Nope, I’ve addressed your arguments repeatedly and early on as anybody reading this thread will be able to see. The rest of this thread has consisted of your perseverating and claiming to be personally attacked. Again, I wonder what you’re trying to achieve here.
You have in no way responded to my point that it’s irresponsible to produce more nuclear waste while we do not have adequate long term storage facilities. You have not produced credible sources or arguments in favour of your opinion.
I want to achieve a civil discussion as stated before.
The fact that you keep repeating that I haven’t responded to your point is precisely why productive discussion is no longer possible. If you want to achieve a civil discussion then you should go back and read my responses, and address them meaningfully.
I don’t think that’s true. You have on no occasion addressed my argument, that we should not produce more nuclear waste as long as we do not have a long term storage facility. You just said that such a facility can be built, and I agree that it’s technically possible, but not politically feasible at that point in time in Germany.
So given the fact that there is no long term storage facility, why do you think that it’s still viable to produce more nuclear waste?
That’s what you failed to respond to.
Also looking at this discussion you have not once presented data from credible sources to support your claim that this is no issue.
You don’t think it’s true, and I think it is true. Therefore we’re at an impasse here. I’ve responded to your point repeatedly and in different ways. I told you that Germany could build the facilities and negotiate with other countries that already have such facilities in the meantime. Meanwhile, plenty of sources have been presented in this thread, and I’ve specifically presented a source discussing nuclear waste storage. Again, I do not see any value in continuing this discussion with you. I’m entirely comfortable with the points I’ve made here.
Come on now. I’m sure that anyone who can keep the overview over all the brackets in a line of Lisp code, has the mental capacity to engage in a civil discussion, offer arguments to support their view and cite credible sources. So let’s try again. My argument is as follows:
As long as there is no adequate long term storage facility for nuclear waste, we should not produce more nuclear waste
What’s your antithesis?
I’ve answered this question a number of times in this thread in several different ways. It’s pretty clear that there’s a communication gap here. I’m not able to express my point any more clearly than I already have.
I’m really curious what it is you’re trying to achieve here. If you’ve stated your arguments, and provided your sources then be confident in the quality of the argument you’ve made and move on. You’re not going to get me to agree with the point you’re making or change my point of view. It’s just not going to happen. Other people reading this thread can make up their own mind whose argument they find more persuasive.
However, going over and over in circles and regurgitating the same points achieves absolutely nothing. There will be no breakthrough in this discussion. As someone who has mental capacity to write code, I also have mental capacity to detect when a conversation reaches a halting state. It’s a skill I’d encourage your to try and develop to avoid wasting your life on pointless discussions.
This is just another ad hominem attack, undermining my personality, while ignoring my arguments and the sources I cited to support them.
Nope, I’ve addressed your arguments repeatedly and early on as anybody reading this thread will be able to see. The rest of this thread has consisted of your perseverating and claiming to be personally attacked. Again, I wonder what you’re trying to achieve here.
You have in no way responded to my point that it’s irresponsible to produce more nuclear waste while we do not have adequate long term storage facilities. You have not produced credible sources or arguments in favour of your opinion.
I want to achieve a civil discussion as stated before.
The fact that you keep repeating that I haven’t responded to your point is precisely why productive discussion is no longer possible. If you want to achieve a civil discussion then you should go back and read my responses, and address them meaningfully.
I don’t think that’s true. You have on no occasion addressed my argument, that we should not produce more nuclear waste as long as we do not have a long term storage facility. You just said that such a facility can be built, and I agree that it’s technically possible, but not politically feasible at that point in time in Germany. So given the fact that there is no long term storage facility, why do you think that it’s still viable to produce more nuclear waste? That’s what you failed to respond to. Also looking at this discussion you have not once presented data from credible sources to support your claim that this is no issue.
You don’t think it’s true, and I think it is true. Therefore we’re at an impasse here. I’ve responded to your point repeatedly and in different ways. I told you that Germany could build the facilities and negotiate with other countries that already have such facilities in the meantime. Meanwhile, plenty of sources have been presented in this thread, and I’ve specifically presented a source discussing nuclear waste storage. Again, I do not see any value in continuing this discussion with you. I’m entirely comfortable with the points I’ve made here.
No you did not. Claiming that building such a facility is possible it’s not the same as there actually existing such a facility in Germany.
Exporting nuclear waste to other countries is not possible because of 2011/70/EURATOM. So the waste has to be handled where it is produced.
Sources: https://www.base.bund.de/DE/base/bundesamt/aufbau/archiv/bfs-stellungnahmen/DE/2011/02-17-eu-richtlinie.html (Google translation: https://www-base-bund-de.translate.goog/DE/base/bundesamt/aufbau/archiv/bfs-stellungnahmen/DE/2011/02-17-eu-richtlinie.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
I once again responded to your claims with arguments and a credible source. This is IMHO how a civil discussion works.