cross-posted from: https://ttrpg.network/post/4222671
Want a 3D printer in New York? Get ready for fingerprinting and a 15 day wait
Assembly Bill A8132 has been assigned a “Same As” bill in the Senate: S8586 [NYSenate.gov] [A8132 - 2023]
I don’t own a gun, I never have and I don’t plan to at any time in the future. But if these pass in the NYS Senate and Congress, it would be required to submit fingerprints for a background check then wait 15 days, before you could own any “COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.”
This isn’t even going to stop any crimes from happening, for pity sakes regular guns end up in criminal charges all the time, regardless of background check laws. How about some real change and effective measures, rather then virtue-signaling and theater illusion for a constituency?
It won’t pass, there are too many other tools that make real guns that aren’t illegal.
This asshole that spent time drafting this up needs to be voted out pronto for wasting our time.
Yeah, wait until these assholes figure out what you can get up to with a milling machine or a lathe.
Or a Dremel and a lot of patience.
You’re dreaming if you don’t think authoritarians would cum in their pants at the opportunity to put you on a list for having a milling machine or a lathe
Shit even a regular drill and steady hands
You don’t need tools. A pipe, shotgun shell and a hammer will do it.
New York, 2045: a new bill would require ID and a background check for all sales of hammers. Said one local woman: “I just don’t see why you need one if you aren’t a professional carpenter. If you can’t justify owning it, you don’t need it!”
Tbf, you only have to print the regulated part, or lower. They aren’t fully printed and are fully functional, and have been recovered from crime scenes before. Furthermore it isn’t illegal to print or mill your own guns, it’s illegal to sell them, and if a shop works on them for any reason they have to serialize them, but you can make them to own yourself as long as you can legally own them anyway.
That said this law is stupid and will solve nothing, for sure, I agree. The most common way guns are illegally acquired is still straw purchasing (though contrary to popular belief it is illegal to buy a handgun in another state federally, and most states follow the same protocol with long guns too, they all usually have to be shipped to an ffl in your state where your transaction is processed, FBI check, all that. Even if a state sells long guns to out of state IDs, they have to follow all the same laws as the state the ID is from, too, including feature bans and waiting periods).
They may as well start regulating pipe sales too, given the capacity to make a firearm using them.
While we’re at it, let’s ban physical objects. Pretty much anything can be loaded into a trebuchet. Think there’s nothing safer than your SUV? Just wait until you see it flying at you from 900m away.
Now I want to see it
[Top Gear theme intensifies.]
Don’t give them any ideas!
Clearly they’ve solved every other issue. 🤨
A hot take that I’ll never back down from: the venn diagram of people who would learn to maintain and operate a 3d printer and people who would use a 3d printed gun for crime are two separate circles. It is significantly cheaper, and infinitely easier and more reliable, to just illegally buy a gun. They breed like fucking tribbles in this country, and you can basically drive out to Kansas and find one lying on the side of the road with a “Free to Good Home” sign on it.
It’s the same thing with lockpicks as burglary tools–if you’re smart enough to use them, you’re smart enough not to use them.
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Oh man, I have an old Bridgeport milling machine I guess it’s time to throw me in jail! Your screwdriver set can be used to assemble a firearm! Now you need a screwdriver license. It’s so stupid, this is just like the safe act where they talk about “safety” and then show they have no understanding of firearms whatsoever. They won’t make the guns illegal but they’ll make a 3d printer take a fucking license, our government is useless…
What fucking idiots.
