• bloopernova@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    People against aid to Ukraine don’t seem to understand that by spending billions now, we save trillions in the future.

    If Ukraine falls, russia will go after more and more. They’re genocidal expansionists, they think they’re destined to rule the world, you just have to see any of their state TV shows. Poland knows this, and knows what happens to people conquered by russia, so Poland is arming themselves to the teeth.

    If russia wins, they’ve plainly stated that they won’t stop expanding westward.

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      Oh shut up. In case you haven’t paid attention America didn’t start this war. Ukraine didn’t start this war. Russia started this war and is genociding the Ukrainian people. This isn’t Biden being a warmonger or America being imperialists. This is Russia being imperialist. I’m sure if someone was attempting to commit genocide on you and yours you’d be hoping that another nation would step in and provide assistance.

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          The one that was a revolution against the russian-installed leader? Ukraine didn’t want to become belarus version 2.

          • §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ@lemmy.mlOP
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            The same one which utilized and increased the Nazi presence in Ukraine? Which also installed a literal comedian who was trying to step down as he couldn’t do anything without US approval? He did have a change of heart though, this was clear when he rang the NYSE bell followed by saying - Ukraine is open for business.

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              It didn’t install shit you fucking twat. 75% of the legislature of Ukraine voted to remove the Russian puppet from office. A democratically elected president was chosen and (speaking of Nazis) lead to pro Russian Ukrainians calling the new government part of a Jewish cabal and part of a Jewish plot. Hmmm guess the Russians are the Nazis. Zelenskyy wasn’t elected until 2019 a full 6 years after the Euromaiden. He was elected with 74% of the vote. Now I know democracy is foreign to you Russian Nazi fucks but that’s not being installed. That’s called winning an election. Something Russia has never seen I know. Also unlike what you Russian Nazi supporters believe he is regarded within Ukraine as being the greatest president of Ukraine ever. Also he is Jewish so y’all calling him a Nazi is a real fucking bad look. Especially since the only genocide occuring here is from the Russian side of things. So let’s incorporate all the facts shall we?

              Fuck off Russian Nazis.

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                  None of what you said was logical or deduction. You are just repeating russian talking points that have no basis in reality. I’d recommend you speak to actual Ukrainians, even better, the Russian speaking ones who putin has spent the last few months masacring.

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              Ukrainians have a Jewish president and are one of the least anti-semite countries in Europe.

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      Right. Massive piss away of taxpayer money. This whole thing is a total sham. Biden and Zalensky are best buds now. How wealthy is Zalensky now? Is he on the Forbes list yet?

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          Where is the outrage from the left then? They usually hate the military and spending any money on it. Oh wait… this is being funded by corrupt Joe. It’s OK then. My bad.

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    Is a stealth onion article? No more aid for war anywhere. Force a sit down and a peace agreement. This is the O N L Y moral argument.

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      putin doesnt want peace so there will be no peace. its why diplomacy didnt work before the invasion and none of the talks have since.

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      Quick question: if a peace agreement gives Russia a chunk of Ukraine, that essentially means that any country can invade another country and then steal its territory with no consequence, right?

      Is that the world you want to live in?

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      If russia invaded where you live, would you defend yourself?

      Would you give away half your country?

      How exactly would you force the invaders of your country to sit down and come to a peace agreement? How would that peace agreement be enforced?