• makyo@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      What is with this lately? I really don’t understand. I know you’re not actually confused when someone says America because no one uses America/American for anything but the people/place of the USA, and they never have. So what exactly are y’all trying to achieve? All I know is that some people get a strange smug satisfaction from pointing it out, but why?

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        10 months ago

        Maybe other American, non-US, people are tired of it? Mexicans are Americans. Chileans are Americans. Canadians are Americans. Gringos are Americans.

        America is a continent, not a country. As a non-gringo, I am still American.

        But the United States like to think they are unique and stand alone in the world, so they have cooped up the “American” name.

        That’s the weird part. Not people saying the objective truth that the United States are not “America”.

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          10 months ago

          Ah so it’s not about your desire to call yourself an American as much as that it bothers you that the USA is a hegemon and gets to dictate to a large degree how things are spoken of and referred to?

          But, ask yourself this then: what else would they refer to themselves as? Unitedians? Statesians? US-Americans (you absolutely know people will still be annoyed that the word America is in it, and anyway - everyone would still end up just saying ‘American’).

          I personally think the whole arguement is sort of hilarious because you and many other non Statesians think it’s not fair that you can’t call yourself American because you live on the American continent. Meanwhile, every Statesian I have met prefers to refer to themselves by the state they’re from rather than call themselves an American.

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            10 months ago

            There’s a reason we call them gringos.

            And you seem to misunderstand: you were the one raising the stink because someone mentioned that Mexico is America. You said that mentioning that is weird. It’s not because it’s an objective truth.

            Mexicans are Americans even is gringos think it’s weird or think that is weird they say that. That’s all.

            And mostly every South American will say they are from their country and not that they are “American”. But that’s mostly because you never want to look like a gringo in South America or risk putting a target on your back.

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              10 months ago

              No, you are wrong. I said I don’t understand why people like to pretend they don’t know what it means when someone says something is American.

              You are fully justified in calling yourself an American if you are Mexican. But if you’re hoping to do it and have people generally understand that you’re talking about the continent and not the country - well kudos to you but you’ve got a real uphill battle.

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                10 months ago

                In any case, the comment you answered to literally just said “Isn’t Mexico in America?”. Which means all of that is “Made in America”. Which makes the headline wrong and untruth.

                You said that, somehow, saying that is weird? Is that objective truth weird to you? An iPhone made in Mexico is an iPhone Made in America. That’s all.

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                  10 months ago

                  Again, I said I don’t get why people play dumb about it. Sure, say it’s made in America when it’s Made in Mexico, but don’t act all confused when literally everyone thinks you mean the USA.

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        10 months ago

        You’re right, I’m not confused, I can guess from the headline that made in America means not the continent America. But that makes it so strange. Why don’t you say made in the USA if that what it means?

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          10 months ago

          Because everyone, for ages, has used and knows that America/American is the same as the USA and its people? It’s not only commonly accepted but actual official nomenclature.

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        10 months ago

        I recently learned that Mexico’s full name is The United States of Mexico, so we actually share the US part of our official names, but not the America part. So it would be more confusing to call Mexico America, and more confusing to call the USA just the US