Five Liberal members of Parliament are asking 25 Canadian university presidents to say whether calling for a genocide against Jewish people or the elimination of Israel violates their school policies.

  • Greg Clarke@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Calling for genocide is illegal in Canada so why is it necessary to cover it in school policies? I wouldn’t expect murder to be included in school policies either.

  • Swordgeek@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    How about if we also agree that saying “bombing hospitals is bad” is not antisemitism?

  • Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Edit: TL;DR: context matters.


    For examples:

    “I don’t like them Jews; fuck them, their space lasers, and the state of Israel” always bad.

    “I’m Palestinian and I would very much like my people to stop being genocided; I think removal of the state of Israel is the only feasible way” correct or incorrect, a geo-political statement, not necessarily a genocideal one, but could be with context.

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      10 months ago

      “TL;DR” implies a summary of the article, but you just seem to be stating a position which I guess is your own view.

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      10 months ago

      Just FYI, some quotation marks here would clear up what is your summary of the article, vs. your personal opinion. As it stands, it comes across as an actual antisemitic post which I don’t think was your intent.

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        10 months ago

        Hope that edit is more clear.

        Frankly, most people come to this issue with such blinders one way or another I don’t think it matters.

    • CanadaPlus@futurology.today
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      10 months ago

      The problematic part starts when you ask what should happen to all the Israelis. Maybe they want a one-state solution, which is fine, but quite often they want a genocide or ethnic cleansing of Jews in order to make space.

      Both the actual antisemites (of both white and Arab flavours) and the Zionists want to blur the fact that there’s two ways that could be meant. It’s really amazing how well people who hate each other can end up coordinating. See also Netanyahu and Hamas.

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    10 months ago

    There are two entities that embrace “from the river to the sea” politics and that employ war tactics that kill innocent civilians : (a) Hamas and (b) Israel.

    So I don’t know what the fuck these MPs are going on about. If we want to condemn genocidal and eliminationist rhetoric and war crimes, this Israeli government is guilty and so is Hamas.

    The only legitimately moderate party in this conflict is the Palestinian Authority, which stands firmly on the Two State Solution position.

    • m0darn@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      Yes, I think the real contention is whether the phrase “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” is a call for genocide. The answer is: to some chanters in Canada it might be, but I think that it is a vanishingly small percentage, however for a significant percentage ofJewish Canadians hearing the phrase, it IS. Which makes it a difficult issue to address, how do you balance the right to political protest against the right to feel secure against genocide.