Going off on a tangent here, I dislike it when people use that phrase “Jesus Christ!” like that. I get that religion has caused much of the evil in this world… (arguably less so than capitalism but… whatever!:-P), though that doesn’t (shouldn’t) matter. It demeans us to sink to that level, whatever our own personal thoughts are on the matter, and regardless of the particular target. / end of my Ted Talk here
And like, isn’t that the meaning of Rule 1, where generally “othering” a group is a strong no-no (the chief one in fact, hence it appearing first)? Granted that religion is a choice unlike e.g. race or sexual preference, but even so? Jesus himself was an extremely chill dude - “Love Thy Neighbor” and all of that - so it’s not his fault that after his death people later abuse his name to gain personal power, using it to do things like diddle children, which is vehemently NOT what “love thy neighbor” meant there!?!?!?!
Star Trek shows us a world where we can rise above all that:-). A famous person semi-recently said: “when they go low, we go high”.
I have no love for religion when it has killed people in my community and when it has been used to spit hate in my face, as a gay man, on a constant basis throughout my life. I am certainly not going to be respecting one of their 10 Commandments in not taking the lords name in vain when they don’t respect the commandments in loving thy neighbor. I do not respect a religion that does not respect me. It is as simple as that. This is a two way street and the oppressed and scapegoated minority is definitely not the one who should make the first move. Especially when “Do not take the lords name in vain” could be applied to a trillion other things, such as using the Lords name to justify support for a party of hateful bigots that stand antithetical to everything the bible claims Jesus to be. Wanna make clear, I’m talking about religion as a whole there and not specifically religious people. It’s just hard to reconcile as a gay guy.
I wrote Rule 1, it doesn’t really apply here because Jesus Christ is a generalized swear. It’s not used as an anti-Christian epithet. It’s not used as a form of hate speech in regards to the religion or the people who use it. It’s an expression of extreme surprise. It wasn’t used in regards to Christians or in specific to them. Didn’t attack them, didn’t question them, didn’t refer to them. I said two words that have been used in this capacity for at least 200 years.
Lastly, the title is just quoting a movie. “Jesus Christ, it’s Jason Bourne.” And that’s one of the primary reasons why I definitely don’t care about using the phrase. There aren’t really any protections for it in media outside of normal swearing. It’s been adopted into the main stream as an expression of frustration. Religion has little to do with it anymore.
I’m more of a “Christ on a cracker” man in polite company, or “fuck me sideways” otherwise.
I don’t discern between polite and impolite society, it’s demeaning. Therefore I’ll use “Jesus fuck” regardless of situation, with very few exceptions on a per diem basis.
Have you ever thought about why you include his name though? Merely bc that’s how it’s been done before? Why not just say “fuck”? (I am partial to “oh fuck me” personally) Surely the inclusion of the name signifies something, whether you personally thought it through or not?
And then more importantly is how it makes others around you feel. If I were to say “damn those gays” every time I was angry… without ever questioning why, then would that similarly be allowable? Even if I had never so much as met a gay person in my life, and none of the people overhearing me was gay, and let’s further stipulate the highly unlikely scenario that I was not even aware of what the term meant. The word “gay” actually does have meaning to people, generally speaking, as too does “Jesus”, it’s not simply an expletive - it has a whole history and backstory that just about everyone in the world is aware of.
Sacrilege. I use it because it’s sacrilegious.
Believe it or not, but I’m down with anything that you do authentically:-P. It’s when people say one thing but then do the opposite that I feel confused. Though since you are honest and forthright about it, you do you and I’m happy that you’ve found what gives you joy.:-D
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