Delta is fourth major U.S. airline to find fake jet aircraft engine parts with forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company::With forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company
Put people in prison for this.
If we ever find out that these parts were involved in a plane crash, screw prison, put them on trial and treat them like serial killers. That’s the death penalty.
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Yeah no I’m gonna go ahead and continue to be ok with building aircrafts and working with dangerous things being regulated 💀
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Then why is it literally my job to work on machines that sole purpose is to find parts, yes aircraft fasteners even, that are not up to specification and reject them? If your metal is porous, it is weak. If your threads don’t make proper contact, they sheer, if the nut head is off perpendicular, it cracks. I could go on.
These parts are rejected because their particular variances make them unaccountable; they will not behave as modeled. If you think it is not hard, I would love to know your method for producing oh something like 300 fasteners a minute with that degree of precision. If our machines let even one bad part through, we’re rediscussing our contract. A 5% false reject rate is considered acceptable over having any bad part go good…
It is difficult, wouldn’t you say? Its a goddamn modern miracle, screws damnit
PS also we work in micrometers, if you actually knew how small nanometers are… well you wouldnt have said that, cheers to learning
OK then spell out your name 10 nm across and send me a pic of the electron microscope
I think they are aiming for quality vs quantity. Flying is the safest way to travel long distances because of those regulations.
All regulation is written in blood. If there was no regulation, everyone would be cutting corners and we’d get daily titan submersible-like situations.
Do you want a piece of suspension up your ass because a cab driver hit a road bump too hard?
Do you want your legs amputated? Because we can make bumpers go lower and more pointy to improve fuel efficiency.
If manufacturers could, they’d drop the catalytic converter and we’d be back to seeing/breathing cars spewing thick black smoke.
All that and they would still charge you the same as now.
I fail to see how someone can understand the aircraft parts industry enough to enter it and become a supplier, and at the same time believe you can get away with forging certifications.
You see parts every day. Maybe you make them. They come with a small stack of certs that you add to. You figure nobody will notice if you do a special process yourself and copy a cert. 500 parts or 501? Maybe 510? Maybe you buy material with no certs, but you verify the conductivity and hardness. You know it’s the right alloy, but it was cheaper. Who’s going to notice? Once you get started, where do you stop?
I’d love to see a breaking bad style dram based on this haha.
It’d be kind of amusing. You could just have a few people in on it and they make it work. Then one of the quality peeps notices some quantities are off. Maybe mix in some source/delegated source or pay off some FAA dfars.
It would basically be the story told through the eyes of Madrigal corporate executives.
Next thing you know, your brother in law parts inspector is being executed by Nazis and your former partner is about to be enslaved by them to make super high quality fake parts, but you first tell him that you watched his gf get on to a 737 MAX with a fuel gauge that showed imperial system units instead of metric and could have saved her but instead just watched it crash (which also caused her paramedic father to space out and fail to save a heroin OD, which goes to show that dealing with fraudulent plane parts can have a wider impact than just the planes it causes to crash).
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The fuck?
Jesse, we need to cook the books
They thought - correctly, I might add - that they could get away with it for a while. They just mistimed their exit.
They made their money. They knew sooner or later they would get caught but it doesn’t matter any money they made more than covers it. Same for companies who decide letting people die and paying claims is cheaper than a full recall
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Yea we should totally adopt the proven alternatives that are known to work so well and have much better civilian flights /s.
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I must be living under a rock. which country on this reality is actually successfully doing so without capitalism?
also where are the planes being built?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Delta Air Lines Inc. has discovered unapproved components in “a small number” of its jet aircraft engines, becoming the latest carrier and fourth major US airline to disclose the use of fake parts.
The suspect components — which Delta declined to identify — were found on an unspecified number of its engines, a company spokesman said Monday.
The problematic pieces, which were certified by AOG, were detected during engine work by an unnamed third party, the spokesman said.
As many as 21 of Delta’s engines could have been affected, according to Bloomberg calculations based on data provided by the airline, which would represent the most among US carriers that have disclosed a number.
“Working with the overhaul provider, we are in the process of replacing those parts and remain in compliance with all FAA guidelines.”
AOG last month was ordered by a London judge to hand over records to help identify additional suspect parts after GE and Safran filed a lawsuit seeking documents relating to “every single sale of products.”
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Lol. I used to be a Delta fan, but honestly they’ve been just as shitty as the others recently; they don’t seem any better than American or United. At least they’re still better than Spirit, I guess.
I need to remember to cancel my Delta Amex before they charge me another annual fee, it ain’t really worth it anymore IMO.
Find out how this happened and put new safeguards in place to prevent it from happening in the future
Does this imply, that if this is happening with major airlines, then the rest of airlines would be less befallen of fake engine parts?
I can imagine that major airlines might not be subject to the level of scrutiny when inspected, as do not-so-established airlines.
I would love to think, that the article describes the worst it can get, regarding fake engine parts in plane construction.
The part supplier is the issue, the airlines weren’t aware they were being sold counterfeit parts. Chances are that many airlines, including small ones, purchased parts from this supplier. I’d be more likely to trust an airline that found these counterfeit parts than one who didn’t, it means they have a good maintenance / inspection system.
I cant speak for the rest of the world, but if any of the affected 65 engines are in aircraft under FAA jurisdiction, the airlines have been digging. This exact scenario is why the FAA has strict traceability standards.
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The good thing is that they can fly with only one engine.
That can happen for any kind of reason, there is no reason to assume its because of faked spare parts. Airplanes are designed to deal with this if and when it happens, engines can fail safely. Hell, engines these days can mostly explode safely.
Flying is extremely safe because we had so many accidents in the past. Today it’s safer to fly than to drive or walk in the car infested cities, especially in the United States.
In the Netherlands, cars are used less and less and those using them drive on very well designed and maintained infrastructure and as such we have very few casualties. In the US, infrastructure is barely maintained, people are barely trained to drive a car, rules are dumb as fuck and as a result, there are a huge punt of casualties from car crashes and accidei, yet I rarely see posts about that.
