Like:
People should be allowed to exist
Social programs aren’t communism
The system isn’t working for the people
Edit:
I’ve changed my mind on this.
Let the DNC go full MAGA and when they lose, because they will lose, they get the heat and we can eject them forever. At least sit them in a corner.
Progressives, you fight if you want but I don’t believe the elections will be fair so it’s a win win for you.
Apparently (according to some random comment on Reddit where this was posted) this was written by an organization called “Third Way”, that doesn’t actually have influence in the government or either political party
What would happen if everyone registered republican and fractured the party from the inside
“So it turns out veering gradually to the right just isn’t working for us, it’s probably the ‘far left’s’ fault”
I knew as a European that the US only had two right wing parties, with the democratic party sitting firmly to the right of most of our centrist parties here, but this is just fucking stupid.
LMFAO. Get a fucking clue
I don’t understand, so their goal is to shift from centrists to conservatives? What is even happening right now?
Holy shit you guys are fucked.
Yeah, that’s a depressing read
This is the Ratchet effect in action. Democrats did not heed the warnings about extremist right-wing propaganda spreading like wildfire. They now assume the voter basis is inherently fascist, and race to appease them.
Democrats are equally to blame for things, like the modern racist slave trade that is the “corrections” system. This puts them with the camp of critical-race-theory enemies. Many of them are transphobic as-fuck, which also puts them (partly) in the anti-gender camp.
I did not cite genocide and war-crimes in the above paragraph, because so many of you have made clear you are fine with it.
Centrists have made it clear, time and again, that they value middle-of-the-road fallacy above human lives, and they are willing to put those lives on the line to reifytheir trolley problem fetish. The centrist is someone who will literally say to Hitler “I will defend to the death your right to express your hate” and at the same time say to the trans woman “I will have to reduce your freedom of expression, because it is unpopular with my voter base, and we risk devolving into fascism”.
This is how we got here. These mfers come every 4 years begging for leftist and anarchist votes, because the alternative is fascism. But they were themselves fascist the whole time, only with a broader social support. Now they lose that broader social support because 10 years of relentless, ludicrously funded propaganda have shifted the discussion 100 years back, they now bend over backwards to earn that social support again. This in unscrupulous.
In turn, it lends legitimacy to neofascism and shifts the institutional landscape even further. We should not concede one inch to anyone trying to water down human rights for political gain. Human rights are to be taken as a whole, especially at the times that the most illiterate and unnuanced fragile white masculinity reclaims racism, homophobia, transphobia and ableism with renewed confidence, this is not the time to let them score popularity points.
In fact, we need to escalate. The more we trigger the fascist voter base the better. Destroy the common sense, of the equal-opportunity capitalism apologist social democrat.
move away from the dominance of small-dollar donors
“Only accept money from rich people.”
Dominance from… People giving you money because they like you? People who can’t call you up to make or break your next election based on how you vote today?
Like even if you take it at face value and pretend it’s all above board… What the fuck could you possibly mean by that?
And at the same time “get out of elite circles”
Democrats are fucking twisted.
Why not? They’re easier to please! Agenda: change nothing.
They have a proven track record already!
It always amazes me to see how clueless the Democrats are.
Look everyone! Words! in a meme! It has to be true! Get your pitchforks fellow leftists! The meme said we hunt tonight!
“I like money”
Everyone likes money.
“Ow my balls”
Love America, stop letting extremists speak for us, get involved with regular people, foster community, and govern better. The democrats might have a chance after all.
How influential are these moderates at this point? If the DNC leadership is still paying attention to them, they are pants on head retarded.
Leftwing people don’t fucking vote in primaries. People don’t vote third party enough for it to act as anything but a spoiler benefiting fascists. Realistically the US military would turn people into a bloody paste if we attempted to rebel.
And now we might not even get elections in the future because we have authoritarians in charge ripping the functions and institutions of the government itself to shreds. Like… we are so fucking screwed.
They’re influential because the big donors like this stuff, it’s the kind of changes that don’t impact them and push away more left leaning policies that would hurt them. One of the points is literally ignoring small donors which is what average people are.
Far-left is the “fuck you” solution that the left would take. In other words, Bernie Sanders. They should just let that man speak.
Calling Bernie Sanders fart left… first thing the American people should do is reframe your left right references. The guy is centre-left. Democrat party is solid right and Republicans are radical far right.
Our Overton Window has been pushed clear out of the building, shoved into the drainage culvert around back, and it’s slowly drifting downriver and out to sea.
I’ve read some people on right-wing comment chains say it’s refreshing that the Overton Window is finally being pushed back to the right. In America.
This shows how deeply our media bubbles bury segments of our population.
I’m betting those same people believe that Christians are being driven into the sea and the war on christmas is a real fight that they are losing.
Bernie Sanders is already the compromise.
I don’t at all think you were saying this, but just put it out there, he himself isn’t compromised. He’s been a solid dude all along
He’s just pushing the bare minimum to make the hurt stop. He’s pushing in the correct direction, he just pushes for the most watered down, easy to sell version of things that would still address the core problems
But ultimately, he is indeed the compromise… It’s the best they’re going to get
Trying to shift further right won’t work. You can’t do “what the other party does” because they already do it and they do it better.
Find original messaging, take back the narrative. Then you get to tell the story you’re good at.
Trump does this exceptionally well. By spouting all kinds of shocking horseshit, the media doesn’t stop talking about him. This lets him dominate the narrative. You could see them panic when Kamala was nominated, because suddenly the DNC controlled the narrative for a bit, and polling showed Kamala taking the lead. That advantage evaporated as Trump seized control of the front pages again.
This doesn’t just happen in the US. Here in the Netherlands, the campaign was not initially but later on dominated by talk on migration from the PVV. Of course other parties tried to respond by talking about migration, which only helped to legitimise the PVVs talking points.
That advantage evaporated as Trump seized control of the front pages again.
And don’t forget the Dems panicking at the sudden signs of success and muzzling their best talking points, tying up Tim Walz and trying to appeal to moderates by parading Liz Cheney around instead of sticking to a really strong narrative, like how republicans are weird and what’s in Project 2025.
Dems do NOT understand populism, or if they do they have a twisted perception of what drives common people and how to engage with people burned out with voting. Seeing the tone of the “rallies” being led by Schumer and Pelosi after the election to try to restore some amount of moral and drive told me clearly that the dem party is utterly cooked. They are out-of-touch, elitist, naive and stuck in some era of civility that never existed.
Trump does [shocking, rude, unprecedented] thing and OWNS the [punching bag]
Whoever has been in the punching bag category thus far has got a steep hill to climb. I think the opposition needs to come from within the republican party, and will need to pursue headlines with a similar format in response to Trump actions that genuinely piss everyone off.
EDIT: if anyone wants inspiration/brain rot for a grass roots campaign, the gateway pundit is good template. I think that’s more of a strategy to use on old people on Facebook.
Trying to shift further right won’t work
I think we’re at a point where most people in the US are right leaning (maybe even arbitrarily so). The democrats have pissed off and alienated enough people where that’s the situation. The important thing now is to reinforce the idea that right wing beliefs and American freedom, civil liberties, democracy, etc are not mutually exclusive. That’s the issue with Trump’s strategy right now, as people are willing to follow him into an authoritarian future because they’re focused on the “own the libs” aspect of it.
Then you get to tell the story you’re good at.
They forgot how. We’re going to have to make a new party, I’m afraid.
I agree with everything you said.
Do they think that Kamala lost because she was too far left?
As someone else noted, the right said that, because yeah, they’re going to say that. Here in about two years, they’re going to be saying Hitler and the Confederacy lost their wars because they were too woke. BUT WAIT there’s more! As I understand it, when they gutted the Biden campaign to make it the Kamalampaign, they foisted a bunch of the high-level HRC campaign staff on her, which, if you look at it, explains why so much of the Kamalampaign looks and smells exactly like the Hillary campaign. Of course, when these doofuses lost again, rather than showing a smidge of self-awareness, they promptly gave interviews saying that it’s clearly because they were too far left (socially, specifically, though I wouldn’t be at all shocked to hear that they meant it economically too).
They already say Hitler was a socialist.
Hitler had welfare and (tried) to spare a jewish friend. That makes him a commie!
The right had tried to paint it that way. Apparently their propaganda worked quite well…
She lost because the US is mostly misogynistic and racist. 2020 Biden voters who didn’t vote for Harris in 2024 mostly gave as their reason something that could be summarized “That’s too much power to give to a woman”. Harris being a woman was a greater impediment to her win than her being a person of color.
When google searches for “is Biden still running” spike on election day, it’s kinda hard to swallow “racist and misogynist” as the reason.
Maybe the electorate really is, but I think we should wait for an election where they don’t run a shambling corpse for the first half, belatedly realize that mistake only when it’s completely undeniable to anyone vaguely paying attention, and forcefully swap him out for the VP that tells union reps to fuck off and goes on television to say “I won’t do anything different from the shambling corpse”
2020 biden voters didn’t expect years of genocide from these wackos.
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