• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 hours ago

    Now all we need is for Trump to write a book about his life that includes a ton of praise of Elon and his blatant bigotry.

    Jk, trump can’t write.

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    8 hours ago

    You’re more than just sympathetic if you’re doing the salute and activey promoting their propaganda

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    6 hours ago

    Honestly I’m not familiar with the histories of other major American car companies but would it really be all that surprising if we found more?

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    5 hours ago

    Who also owns a major media outlet that is used to push three nazi propaganda (ford’s newspaper/twitter)

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    8 hours ago

    Technically, sure. But it was founded in July 2003, Musk bought in on February 2004, and it shipped its first car in 2012. So there wasn’t much he wasn’t involved with.

    Why can’t a person be both a successful businessman and a colossal douchebag? Isn’t “he’s a terrible human being” sufficient? I would think that should be.

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      6 hours ago

      Why can’t a person be both a successful businessman and a colossal douchebag?

      I think a more informative question would be “Why can’t a person be both a successful businessman and not a colossal douchebag?”

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        Again, a technically true statement. His family was fairly wealthy, on average. But Musk did not start out millionaire wealthy. His father gave Elon (and his brother Kimbal jointly) $28,000 in seed money for his first company. Everything from there was Musk building companies and selling them to climb the wealth rankings.

        But none of that matters, clearly. We’re in a post-truth period where all that matters is whether I’m hating the right people, and hate doesn’t require truth. Indeed, it’s usually incompatible with it. I hate Elon Musk personally, I think he’s a terrible human being and Trump is the worst president America has ever had, but because I didn’t jump right in on the inaccurate “and also Elon didn’t even accomplish anything on his own, he just bought everything with his giant piles of inherited apartheid emeralds!” narrative I get the downvotes. I didn’t yell loudly enough along with the mob at the five-minutes hate, so I must be a full-blown conservative Nazi too.

        So I’ll give everyone what they want to hear, I guess. I heard Elon Musk loves to kill kittens. He walks right up to them, grabs them by the tail, and whips their skin right off before they even know what’s happening. Puppies, too. Also he doesn’t really launch rockets with SpaceX, they’re aluminium foil balloons filled with hydrogen. That’s why they explode sometimes, hydrogen balloons just do that.

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            Well, I have to admit to being pleasantly and genuinely surprised. I was ready to just dismiss all my notifications unread on this thread. I’m not used to any Internet arguments going this way, let alone ones about Musk or American politics. Thanks. Although this does mean that now I’ve been fed a little bit of hope to keep me going in the pursuit of thankless truths, when I could have just quit, so maybe it’s a mixed bit of gratitude. :)

            Elon Musk is, indeed, a giant tool. Even back in the days before he got overtly political it was clear that he was socially malajusted, and unfortunately it seems like buying Twitter was somewhat of a turning point for him - he fell completely off a cliff after that. I really wish he’d just stuck to building those various companies of his because I really do like the results of his work, in a “von Braun was good for the American space program” sort of way. I don’t imagine his current trajectory is going to end well and I hope he at least gets Starship flying routinely before he goes Howard Hughes.